I don’t discriminate, but ….

It's an acknowledgement by the government that some cultures have different 'values' and different standards of equality in relation to women.

Galaxy

It's an acknowledgement by the government that some cultures have different 'values' and different standards of equality in relation to women.

…. Children & elderly 😩

TerriBull

Might the pamplets be in the languages that the men will be familiar with is another thought?

One would assume they will be, wouldn't one?

Though I could foresee some whipped up outrage at the costs involved...

Anyway the subject of rape, misogyny, etc, should be to included in sex education for our own youngsters.

The costs would be entirely necessary, there is no point in handing out information in a language the recipients wouldn't understand.

MT62

Anyway the subject of rape, misogyny, etc, should be to included in sex education for our own youngsters.

Yes I do agree with that, I think it's quite apparent how attitudes are being shaped by social media with damaging effects.

Galaxy

It's an acknowledgement by the government that some cultures have different 'values' and different standards of equality in relation to women.

I find it almost sickening.

It's like when someone says ''I'm not telling you off, BUT....''

If you need to tell me off, OK, do it, but don't claim you're not doing it!

I thoroughly agree with you Cossy, it's always easier to blame someone else for situations people find themselves in. We could be more caring of everyone's needs wherever they come from/live.

Lizzies

I saw someone the other day say that getting planning permission for the spaces above retail premises to be used for accommodation is really difficult. If councils want more accommodation in towns then surely this would solve some problems. People would be near places to work and wouldn’t need to travel, they would use the shops nearby and keep them more viable, etc.

There are a few relatively new buildings that were office blocks in our area that have been given planning permission to be used for accommodation now. This is despite the fact that there are a huge number of newly-built flats unsold or empty. I don't know whether removing smaller, flexible office space is really a good thing, they make it easier for people to start new businesses.
As it happens, much of the space above shops in this area was actually built as accommodation. Sadly building societies are less keen on giving mortgages on some of these, depending on the use of the retail premises.

'It is a positive thing to call out racism, misogyny or homophobia, as it can stop immediate harm and breaks the cycle of prejudice.'
LemonJam, on page 1

Even better,

'Speaking up shatters the comfort that lets prejudice grow'

LemonJam

JAFFO

I thoroughly agree with you Cossy, it's always easier to blame someone else for situations people find themselves in. We could be more caring of everyone's needs wherever they come from/live.

I think we have enough problems here with adding to the burden.
How many more do you think this country & its lack of infrastructure can it cope with?

Problems with infrastructure, for example the water company failures, have nothing to do with 'immigration '.
Failures have come about due to poor policy decisions e.g. selling off to private companies an essential resource, and then these companies failing to invest in repairs, preferring to pay dividends to shareholders.
No, immigrants are not to blame for that.

In the year ending December 2025, 642,000 people emigrated long term from the UK- to be foreigners in another country as it were.

54,887 people were granted refugee protection in the year ending December 2025 according to the UK Home Office statistics.

The number of those granted refugee protection is far lower than the number emigrating thus UK infrastructure problems are not caused by the number of asylum seekers arriving in the UK and granted refugee protection.

Maremia

Problems with infrastructure, for example the water company failures, have nothing to do with 'immigration '.
Failures have come about due to poor policy decisions e.g. selling off to private companies an essential resource, and then these companies failing to invest in repairs, preferring to pay dividends to shareholders.
No, immigrants are not to blame for that.

Ok then Maremia. Since we have a shortage of school teachers, GPs, especially dentists (because the people already here can’t get an nhs dentist) what about those.
If we are bringing thousands in, how that’s not being affected?

LemonJam

In the year ending December 2025, 642,000 people emigrated long term from the UK- to be foreigners in another country as it were.

54,887 people were granted refugee protection in the year ending December 2025 according to the UK Home Office statistics.

The number of those granted refugee protection is far lower than the number emigrating thus UK infrastructure problems are not caused by the number of asylum seekers arriving in the UK and granted refugee protection.

Why is it they are emigrating? All our young neighbours are totally cheesed off & want to go to Australia. Two families have actually gone whom I totally miss.

Not all of those are British. Of the total number 642,000 who left the UK in 2025, 118,000 were EU nationals and 278,000 were non EU nationals. 246,000 were British.

Cumulatively over 2021-2024, 650,000 British emigrated. Numbers are stable according to the ONS. There was a slight increase in late 2021 which can be probably be explained by the removal of Covid travel restrictions.

MaizieD

TerriBull

Might the pamplets be in the languages that the men will be familiar with is another thought?

One would assume they will be, wouldn't one?

Though I could foresee some whipped up outrage at the costs involved...

One thing that's much, much cheaper now with AI - print leaflets in lots of different languages.

I think it's a good idea, a lot will find it patronising but some will learn something they didn't know.(& how should they?)

LemonJam

In the year ending December 2025, 642,000 people emigrated long term from the UK- to be foreigners in another country as it were.

54,887 people were granted refugee protection in the year ending December 2025 according to the UK Home Office statistics.

The number of those granted refugee protection is far lower than the number emigrating thus UK infrastructure problems are not caused by the number of asylum seekers arriving in the UK and granted refugee protection.

Yes my son is one of them, he has lived it two European cities and is now in Canada, he applied for a visa, got a job and paid for his own flight and accommodation, he also had to prove who he was and register with local Police.

He has never been a burden on another country’s economy and has abided by the laws of that country.

We are losing people like my son and gaining a lot of dubious men who are not contributing.

Now Sago, that is ignoring the many who do stay and make a good and useful life. Frankly, shame on you - "they" are just simply not all the same^!

Now, should your son fall ill - god forbid, but should it happen - he may need the care that country provides. Or carers at home.

And some of those carers - will be immigrants.

I think the point is that valuable contributors are leaving. Of course the majority are staying, obviously. No one said that immigrants don’t help though I believe a number of Polish people have now returned home because things are better for them in Poland. Or is there some sort of discrimination between where immigrants come from now ?

nanna8

I think the point is that valuable contributors are leaving. Of course the majority are staying, obviously. No one said that immigrants don’t help though I believe a number of Polish people have now returned home because things are better for them in Poland. Or is there some sort of discrimination between where immigrants come from now ?

My uncles polish neighbours went back as they didn’t feel safe in this country.
The polish guy said it’s coming to something when he had to teach his children to use their school rucksacks as shields in case of a knife attack at school.

Wyllow3

Now Sago, that is ignoring the many who do stay and make a good and useful life. Frankly, shame on you - "they" are just simply not all the same^!

Now, should your son fall ill - god forbid, but should it happen - he may need the care that country provides. Or carers at home.

And some of those carers - will be immigrants.

I agree with Sago. Our neighbours who have gone to live in Australia are self sufficient to live until they buy a house. They have jobs lined up social worker & joinery business (here). They aren’t relying on handouts.
Most that come here aren’t self sufficient, relying on state handouts & freebies.
Some may go on to live a fruitful life but I bet a lot don’t.

And now people say how great many of them were. It just shows the antagonism from some (speaking generally here) to anyone "not us" even when they are much needed... and sets their children against them.

It happened to my DGD until we enlightened her. some kids at her school (Rural County Durham, now Reform, but folks are less enthusiastic now as the council isn't particularly competent and all promised has not emerged).

Anyway, she has come to visit me and we were in the park looking at families from all backgrounds boating in the lake and in the playground, all having fun, all just having a lovely family day out, but some of the women were not in Western Dress.
So she came out with "why cant they dress like us and learn our language" - most definitely not from home.

As it happened, there were mostly 3rd generation Pakistanis, many of the girls in Western Dress, some older ones chosen modest dressing, others not, usual teenage giggling, and their English was frankly mostly better than many a not too well educated white one. No "women following behind the men stuff".

So it wasn't what she observed, it was a theory planted in her head. so we quietly went to work:

her grandad had her visiting and he lives in a multi cultural area, next door included, and just saw for herself with only a little needing to be said: humans are humans the world round, and its how we/they behave, not the dress,

and certainly not across the board assumptions about language.