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It had to come; Farage bringing ICE advisor to UK

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 21-Sept-26 08:06:58

Tom Homan - Trump’s hardline ICE advisor.

What else is there to say?

Casdon Mon 21-Sept-26 09:43:01

25Avalon

That figure’s not right. He is now at plus 24 if you look at the YouGov poll so NOT as low as Starmer. 69% do not regard him favourably. Idk where the Independent gets its figure from. Whatever he has fallen in the popularity stakes but not into minus figures which ED Davey and Polanski have.

On Poll Checker, which amalgamates all the polls, he is -24.1, if you click on the end of the graph for the latest.
www.google.com/goto?url=CAESaQHrOzAV8vvByooNB3zRipdshapuDprp-8xJXddp3h273ZCovNbn1_SsUNUEAcgFk10JaOzsj3y4I_DJ_EisCV2G3jAweNPfHwdFqOEAqBMT-zaitiLdamtrwCGqKrodrJKN_N4HsK429Q

Cossy Mon 21-Sept-26 09:43:42

25Avalon

Totally get your point here, the issue with polls is the different ones come out with different results, so I don’t necessarily set too much store by polls. I’m more interested in actual results.

Yes, you are right, we do want facts and accuracy.

Tbf to both of you, Casdon didn’t actually mention which poll initially.

I guess the important thing, in addition to accuracy, to those of us who don’t support Reform, party wide, it’s not just “lefties”, is Farage’s popularity is dropping across the most polls.

Maremia Mon 21-Sept-26 09:43:53

Just a reminder that Farage was critical of the handgun ban which came in after the Dunblane school shooting.

foxie48 Mon 21-Sept-26 09:51:27

Maizie I may have too much faith in the checks and balances in our own political system but actually I have more faith in the British electorate. Reform and Restore, may pick up seats at the next GE but we seem to be moving to a more fragmented parliamentary system with more parties gaining seats and potentially no overall majority. I can't envisage a future Reform government with an overall majority or one that exists because of a coalition that would agree to the more extreme policies that Farage would want to pass into law. Fortunately Farage and Lowe are fishing in the same murky waters but still hate each other's guts, long may that last! I am an optimist and actually think most British voters are decent people.

Graphite Mon 21-Sept-26 09:51:33

First of all, Farage isn’t bring Homan to the UK. He was speaking at a US event where he was trying to talk up Trump’s presidency ahead of the mid terms.

He complimented Tom Homan who was a guest at the event and joked “I’ve got terrible news for you. We’re hijacking Tom Homan and taking him back with us to secure our borders.”

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/20/farage-says-he-wants-to-hijack-trumps-ice-czar-to-help-secure-uk-border

This is all part of his schtick whenever he goes to the US, to rubbish the country he is allegedly so patriotic about.

On polling:

Net favourability is the proportion who think each leader is doing a "somewhat good" or "very good" job, minus those who think they are doing a "somewhat bad" or "very bad" job.

The latest YouGov poll shows that only 24% of people think of Farage favourably. 69% say they have an unfavourable opinion.

Latest fieldwork 9-10 September 2026.

This leaves him with a September 2026 net favourability rating of -45, identical to Starmer’s score just prior to his resignation. This is down from a rating of -31 this time last year, with Britons now nearly three times as likely to see him negatively than positively.

YouGov say: While this is within the margin of error of last month’s figure (67%), it is the highest figure recorded by the tracker for Farage in the ten years it has run.

yougov.com/en-gb/articles/55550-political-favourability-ratings-september-2026

He does slightly letter with Luke Tryl’s More in Common which shows a net favourability rating of -28. The last fieldwork was 11-15 September. The number is down from its highest -1 on August 25 so that’s a 27 point drop in three weeks.

25Avalon Mon 21-Sept-26 10:03:38

It’s difficult to say if Farage is doing a good or bad job. We won’t know unless he gets into power. If he does it will be because Reform have won a general election and he is still leader. Like it or not a lot of his policies resonate with a lot of people - regardless of whether you think they are far right wing racists or faschists, they all have a vote. Some would welcome ICE tactics. Maybe it will resurrect Farage’s popularity. A lot of his remarks are off the cuff and cannot be taken too seriously. Personally I don’t like the man with his beer swilling and cigarettes.

fancythat Mon 21-Sept-26 10:18:56

Cossy

fancythat

Which then generates more media hype, which then, with the added attention, drives more people to them.

An own goal.

What do you mean by “an own goal”?

An own goal is a “bad thing”, if as you state (& I’d disagree) that all the media hype around Farage attracts more followers and attention, that’s a “positive” for Reform and Farage, not “an own goal”? 😂😜😜

An own goal by people in the Country trying to stop him getting into power, or having more power than he already has.

fancythat Mon 21-Sept-26 10:20:53

People freely give him the air of publicity.
Why do that?

Even on GN, thread after thread is started about him, by people who profess to not liking him.
Again, why do that?

Cossy Mon 21-Sept-26 10:24:47

25Avalon

It’s difficult to say if Farage is doing a good or bad job. We won’t know unless he gets into power. If he does it will be because Reform have won a general election and he is still leader. Like it or not a lot of his policies resonate with a lot of people - regardless of whether you think they are far right wing racists or faschists, they all have a vote. Some would welcome ICE tactics. Maybe it will resurrect Farage’s popularity. A lot of his remarks are off the cuff and cannot be taken too seriously. Personally I don’t like the man with his beer swilling and cigarettes.

Some would welcome ICE tactics?

I know of not one person who would welcome ICE tactics!

Not one!

I have a wide set of friends and family, I know of their political beliefs, if not their voting habits, they are a mix of hard left, soft left, Greens, LibDems and Tories. Their choice and we don’t always agree politically.

Many of my friends AND majority of our family are quite political, it’s our belief politics affect us all and in many different areas of our lives so we are quite comfortable discussing politics, as we are quite comfortable actually discussing religion. We almost never discuss income or money.

Cossy Mon 21-Sept-26 10:41:04

fancythat

People freely give him the air of publicity.
Why do that?

Even on GN, thread after thread is started about him, by people who profess to not liking him.
Again, why do that?

Have you considered it’s because maybe some of us are utterly sickened and horrified by Farage’s antics.

Could it be that he stirs fear in us, just like he exploits the fears and anxieties within his “flock”.

But clearly for different reasons?

Could it be that some of us “blame” him for the serious divisions in our own countries?

Partially caused by him for spreading his wild rhetoric that once our Country has rid itself of migrants, especially AS, and the majority of those on benefits, our country will be so much better?

Besides which, it’s not simply Farage, it’s all Reform and Restore MPs we often write about.

If you don’t like it, don’t come onto N&P threads.

Reform and Restore use their leaders cash and media force and are literally there in our faces, day in, day out.

If you believe, even for a mili-second, that having threads about them on a teeny tiny platform like Gransnet, makes any difference to their popularity, in either direction, then you’re totally misguided.

It’s a good safe place to people to offload and vent.

Just ignore the N&P threads, there’s lots of other more interesting threads on here which may be more “up your street”.

Many of us have been “political” all of our lives, I come from an extremely politically active family, my parents regularly discussed national and international current affairs and history with me and in front of me, since I was a small child. Politics affects almost everything we do.

That’s my take, many may and can disagree smile thanks

25Avalon Mon 21-Sept-26 10:44:23

Maybe Cossy but there are people out there who join marches etc in protest, not all peaceful, which you cannot discount. I don’t know people in favour of ICE but I do know people strongly against illegal migration. You don’t seem to know any of that persuasion but they are out there and Farage knows it.

Cossy Mon 21-Sept-26 10:46:20

25Avalon

Maybe Cossy but there are people out there who join marches etc in protest, not all peaceful, which you cannot discount. I don’t know people in favour of ICE but I do know people strongly against illegal migration. You don’t seem to know any of that persuasion but they are out there and Farage knows it.

Yes, I know amongst the most ardent supporters there will be those who favour an approach such as ICE.

I’m very happy not to include them in either my family nor friendship group flowers

Graphite Mon 21-Sept-26 10:55:10

The favourability polling is about leadership skills in the job those people do now not whether they would make a good Prime Minister.

Pollsters also track politicians who are not party leaders e.g. Ed Miliband, Tom Tugendhat, Andrew Griffith, Claire Coutinho.

To quote More in Common: Leaders are increasingly required to take positions on contested issues. They often do so with limited time and under public scrutiny. In these conditions, it is easy to mistake the loudest voices for broader public opinion.

I don’t think anybody is in any doubt that Farage has the loudest voice but it’s clear that he speaks for far fewer people than the popular media would have us believe.

Maremia Mon 21-Sept-26 10:56:34

I respectfully disagree Avalon. It is NOT difficult to know if Farage is doing a good job.
He was in charge of negotiating the post BREXIT fishing rights. He was rarely in attendance.
What has he done for Clacton?
Has he used any of his donated cash to train up officials?
So many are inexperienced and failing, in their elected positions.
I think it is fair to predict that he would be a disaster as PM, just as Trump is a disaster in the USA.

JenniRen Mon 21-Sept-26 11:06:26

Reform is very much a minority party with just 8 MPs.
How does the leader of this party get so much publicity?

Yes, he is a clever manipulator, Cossy
But he is a one-trick pony with nothing much else to offer.

petra Mon 21-Sept-26 11:23:10

Cossy

fancythat

People freely give him the air of publicity.
Why do that?

Even on GN, thread after thread is started about him, by people who profess to not liking him.
Again, why do that?

Have you considered it’s because maybe some of us are utterly sickened and horrified by Farage’s antics.

Could it be that he stirs fear in us, just like he exploits the fears and anxieties within his “flock”.

But clearly for different reasons?

Could it be that some of us “blame” him for the serious divisions in our own countries?

Partially caused by him for spreading his wild rhetoric that once our Country has rid itself of migrants, especially AS, and the majority of those on benefits, our country will be so much better?

Besides which, it’s not simply Farage, it’s all Reform and Restore MPs we often write about.

If you don’t like it, don’t come onto N&P threads.

Reform and Restore use their leaders cash and media force and are literally there in our faces, day in, day out.

If you believe, even for a mili-second, that having threads about them on a teeny tiny platform like Gransnet, makes any difference to their popularity, in either direction, then you’re totally misguided.

It’s a good safe place to people to offload and vent.

Just ignore the N&P threads, there’s lots of other more interesting threads on here which may be more “up your street”.

Many of us have been “political” all of our lives, I come from an extremely politically active family, my parents regularly discussed national and international current affairs and history with me and in front of me, since I was a small child. Politics affects almost everything we do.

That’s my take, many may and can disagree smile thanks

It needed saying 👏👏👏

fancythat Mon 21-Sept-26 13:39:46

If you believe, even for a mili-second, that having threads about them on a teeny tiny platform like Gransnet, makes any difference to their popularity, in either direction, then you’re totally misguided.

I do believe it makes a difference. Yes.

Cant remember the membership numbers.
And it is said of all social media sites, that there are about 10 times, or was it 8 times, the number reading, who never become readers.

fancythat Mon 21-Sept-26 13:50:23

AI Overview Gransnet has over 350,000 registered users and members, alongside a larger pool of un-registered daily readers and visitors.Membership and Audience NumbersRegistered Members: The platform reports more than 350,000 registered accounts on the network.Monthly Reach: Historically, Gransnet has stated it reaches over a quarter of a million (~250,000+) monthly unique users, making it the largest online social networking and forum community tailored specifically for the over-50s in the UK.

NotSpaghetti Mon 21-Sept-26 13:58:37

it’ll be more in hope & protest than expectation

You may think this re the Farage vote.
History has told us that many thought this of the Brexit vote... It was supposed to be just a punch on the nose for Cameron.

🤷‍♀️

Fallingstar Mon 21-Sept-26 13:59:21

Our opinions matter because no matter how big the readership is we are a group of people from all points on the compass politically which is representative of the over 50s, our concerns mirror the concerns in society today. Think tanks are paid to test the political temperature in a similar way.

fancythat Mon 21-Sept-26 14:54:59

fancythat

^If you believe, even for a mili-second, that having threads about them on a teeny tiny platform like Gransnet, makes any difference to their popularity, in either direction, then you’re totally misguided.^

I do believe it makes a difference. Yes.

Cant remember the membership numbers.
And it is said of all social media sites, that there are about 10 times, or was it 8 times, the number reading, who never become readers.

The last word on this post should be members, not readers.

Cossy Mon 21-Sept-26 15:05:00

fancythat

AI Overview Gransnet has over 350,000 registered users and members, alongside a larger pool of un-registered daily readers and visitors.Membership and Audience NumbersRegistered Members: The platform reports more than 350,000 registered accounts on the network.Monthly Reach: Historically, Gransnet has stated it reaches over a quarter of a million (~250,000+) monthly unique users, making it the largest online social networking and forum community tailored specifically for the over-50s in the UK.

I agree ALL our opinions matter and count.

I just don’t agree that any of us posting our opinions on our own N&P thread is going to change any of our own members allegiances and politics.

350,000 is very small compared to most other social media sites.

It might be considered one of the largest reaches for the over 50’s. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Maremia Mon 21-Sept-26 16:44:00

Why speak out against Farage?
'Silence in the face of injustice is complicity with the oppressor'

NanaMaryNH Tue 22-Sept-26 13:58:48

Pray that ICE tactics don't come your way. ICE has few limitations we impose on law enforcement. Awful here.

Doversole Tue 22-Sept-26 14:03:21

Cossy

25Avalon

That figure’s not right. He is now at plus 24 if you look at the YouGov poll so NOT as low as Starmer. 69% do not regard him favourably. Idk where the Independent gets its figure from. Whatever he has fallen in the popularity stakes but not into minus figures which ED Davey and Polanski have.

Is that your only response? To query the poll figures quoted?

Cossy, It would help more if you cited your source.