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Significant rise in both anti-semitism and Islamophobia

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Apr-26 07:43:02

What is it with all this hatred and division?

Do people prefer to live in a society where mistrust of one’s neighbour is the norm?

It has almost certainly got worse since the Middle East crises in Gaza and now spreading further afield, but it is staggering how people are so willing to “blame” their neighbour.

Grandmabatty Mon 20-Apr-26 07:56:13

I don't think the rise and use of social media helps. Algorithms encourage people to stay within echo chambers.

AGAA4 Mon 20-Apr-26 08:04:51

20% of Jewish people are thinking of leaving the UK as they no longer feel safe here.
This rise in hatred in the UK is worrying and upsetting.

ronib Mon 20-Apr-26 08:26:49

The need to protect synagogues in the UK is not new. I was horrified to chat to a guard at the local synagogue partly because my very young grandson insisted on poking his head through the barriers! My horror was that any religious group felt the need for such a high level of security to pray. I feel that the UK hasn’t done enough to protect this group.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Apr-26 08:32:18

It’s not easy to be Jewish in the U.K. at the moment, or elsewhere in the world actually 😿

TerriBull Mon 20-Apr-26 08:50:58

I agree it's certainly not easy to be Jewish in the UK, or probably anywhere else now. Their smaller numbers render them far more vulnerable than other groups and their aggressors come from three separate bodies, whereas it's almost always far right thugs who target Muslim communities. Jewish enclaves on the other hand have been aimed at by the far right, the far left and Islamists. The latter two groups at times colluding in both verbal aggression and in physical acts of violence.

MartavTaurus Mon 20-Apr-26 08:57:17

I don't know what's to blame. Though I have my suspicions.

But I'm sick of Jewish places of worship being attacked as a regular occurrence. Three more synagogues last week in Harrow, Hendon and Finchley, following on from the Golders Green ambulances' attack.

If these happenings become just normal regular events, I despair.

MartavTaurus Mon 20-Apr-26 08:59:49

My horror was that any religious group felt the need for such a high level of security to pray.

This, ronib. A place ofprayer should be our sanctuary.

Anniebach Mon 20-Apr-26 09:00:11

What’s to blame ? they are Jews,

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 20-Apr-26 09:01:55

I agree with Grandmabatty. It's possible to spend your life engaging online with others that stoke the fires of a certain worldview, that sees people who worship/ vote/ dress differently from themselves as less than human, and part of a " problem".

nanna8 Mon 20-Apr-26 09:27:06

Allowing marches flying foreign flags doesn’t help, either.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Apr-26 10:40:13

nanna8

Allowing marches flying foreign flags doesn’t help, either.

But if you think about it, does that include the Ukrainian flag or say the Greenland flag or Canadian flag if dopey Trump has another brain storm?

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 10:51:35

Is there a consortium of religions together that 'worship; together and meet together socially in other ways such as lunches in each others; premises----sort of interfaith organisation?

If there is such an interfaith organisation are there particular sections of society that would not be interested in attending?

Anniebach Mon 20-Apr-26 10:51:37

More Trump ! hardly to blame for antisemitism

Oreo Mon 20-Apr-26 10:54:26

nanna8

Allowing marches flying foreign flags doesn’t help, either.

It certainly doesn’t! Iranian flags of the regime and Palestinian flags just add to the hate fest going on in the UK against Jews, and believe me, any old Jews will do, they don’t care.

Oreo Mon 20-Apr-26 10:55:10

Whitewavemark2

nanna8

Allowing marches flying foreign flags doesn’t help, either.

But if you think about it, does that include the Ukrainian flag or say the Greenland flag or Canadian flag if dopey Trump has another brain storm?

You know full well it doesn’t.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 11:10:13

Answer----there are such places and events such as shared meals and parties but they are mainly attended by middle class individuals . Humanities students may be interested but those don't stay in the same city for long. In short, overall, there is a general lack of initiative to attend community events

I notice that churches in my locality make an effort to engage people socially especially families with children For example one of the churches calls it "Messy Church",

Then again there are many people who simply don't join things at all.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 11:16:15

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

nanna8

Allowing marches flying foreign flags doesn’t help, either.

But if you think about it, does that include the Ukrainian flag or say the Greenland flag or Canadian flag if dopey Trump has another brain storm?

You know full well it doesn’t.

The Salvation Army has a good system for engaging sympathies among the populace.

Interfaith groups might do colourful marches with flags , banners, costumes, and a jolly partying atmosphere . People are naturally sympathetic, but it takes special events go arouse their sympathy for strangers.

Cossy Mon 20-Apr-26 11:23:21

Any attack on any place of worship is beyond appalling, I don’t care, in this context, who worships there.

Places of worship are sacred and places of safety to those who use them.

Across centuries people and their places of worship have been abused and attacked.

I don’t know what the answer is, but I do not it’s not attacking people and their places of worship in the name of religion, faith or lifestyle.

I despise anyone or any group which does this.

TerriBull Mon 20-Apr-26 11:33:10

Look no further than universities to see how the left have infiltrated those establishments and manipulated the mindset. Jewish students have been targeted at times. A while ago, A Jewish Labour MP's prospective visit to a school/university, I can't remember which, was cancelled. When a mob went through a Jewish area in London with Palestinian flags shouting "rape to Jewish women" there weren't any repercussions. I've seen that type of intimidation, first hand down in Bournemouth a couple of years ago, where there's a Jewish community. Cars riding around waving the Palestinian flag shouting abuse to the Jews on a Saturday, their sabbath when they're going to and from the synagogue. My perception is that nothing is done about any of this UNTIL it turns really nasty and say a Jewish place is firebombed with possible injuries, worst case scenario loss of life. Then we get the usual "in the moment" hollow mealy mouthed "we must stand with our Jewish community" Where are they though when these low level crimes take place?, not that they're that low level. David Baddiel was absolutely right where he made the assertion in his book titled "Jews Don't Count" They literally have to put up with aggression that wouldn't be tolerated against any other demographic, before arrests were made.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 11:39:06

If I were younger and physically fit I would enjoy demonstrating outside a synagogue with intermingled Muslim, Jewish, and Christian banners.

fancyflowers Mon 20-Apr-26 11:52:08

The current level of hostility and intimidation is horrifying. Have people learned nothing from the holocaust?

nanna8 Mon 20-Apr-26 12:02:10

I don’t think they have learned a thing and ,what is worse, I don’t think they give it a thought. Then most schools don’t seem to teach a lot of history these days, sadly.

paddyann54 Mon 20-Apr-26 12:10:39

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Maremia Mon 20-Apr-26 12:50:46

Has there been an upsurge, since the reporting of the horrors in Gaza?