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Why Labour is haemorrhaging

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thatbags Wed 06-Jul-16 19:09:40

Insightful article from Quillette. Comments interesting too.

An extract:
"In Britain, the task is to marry metropolitan modernity with English small-c conservative culture, and to fuse them into a common sense of national purpose. This would mean acknowledging and incorporating all the things both London and Brussels elites have dismissed as anachronisms: tradition, a respect for settled ways of life, a sense of place and belonging, a desire for home and rootedness, the continuity of relationships at work and in one’s neighbourhood."

Anniebach Sun 10-Jul-16 09:58:51

Is Corbyn a great man with power thrust upon him by momentum?

Lazigirl Sun 10-Jul-16 10:38:43

Eloethan A very good post. I agree with so much of what you have said, particularly about the reforming radical Labour policies in the past but sadly they have now lost their way becoming a "Tory light" party. I really want to support a party that challenges the Tory agenda because no matter who becomes their leader they will no doubt be continuing the policies that have so disadvantaged those who can least afford it - particularly if we are to go into a recession as a result of Brexit.

trisher Sun 10-Jul-16 11:38:53

Eloethan an excellent post. I think Corbyn's speeches on his stress, and real life stress, show he knows what ordinary people's problems are. If only other MPs did.

Anniebach Sun 10-Jul-16 11:57:19

trisher, you know other MP's do not share his concerns?

trisher Sun 10-Jul-16 14:21:57

They seem to be pursuing their own agenda Anniebach, squabbling about who leads the party. They probably think they care but it isn't coming across, more "I'm the King of the castle, you're the dirty rascal" than concern for ordinary people.

Anniebach Sun 10-Jul-16 14:29:45

Yes trisha and it's all they are questioned about. But the leadership has to be sorted before policies can be put to the public ,I wish they would get this sorted out , it is so worrying isn't it?

trisher Sun 10-Jul-16 14:36:49

Yes, but I watched Angela Eagle on TV this morning and sorry she has less charisma than Corbyn, seemed very self-centered and has the most irritating voice. Someone should have coached her to deepen it a bit, like they did Mrs Thatcher.

Anniebach Sun 10-Jul-16 14:44:45

What did she say that makes you say she is self centred trisher?

trisher Sun 10-Jul-16 16:25:57

My mum was etc my dad was etc, I come from etc I had a comprehensive, a good, comprehensive education. By which time I had switched off. Who the f* cares where she comes from- it's what she intends to do that mattes- no talk of policy at all.

Anniebach Sun 10-Jul-16 16:58:30

Aw trisha, to be fair to the woman, she just spoke of her working class parents, going to a good comp and then university and how she wants this for all , are you allowing your support for Corbyn affect you this much? smile what is wrong with an MP speaking of their background ?

trisher Sun 10-Jul-16 17:22:48

Because it sounds like that comedy sketch-trying to prove I am more working class than you are-"eh when I grew up we had nothing." Now that is old Labour and it won't win elections.

Anniebach Sun 10-Jul-16 17:37:52

She isn't going to win trisher, I admire her for putting the party before her career, Corbyn has the unions, momentum, far left and left votes , no way can she win, at least it will be clearer the amount of support Corbyn has , I respect her for this