Another appalling attack

twaddle

Who are "all" these people?

You know full well, the usual apologists.

Further to my post above the women with the very blatant and highly provocative Hamas supporting "paraglider" images on their backs were prosecuted but got a conditional discharge, kind of pointless. Given how the attacks against our Jewish community are now playing out that sort of laissez faire, slap on the wrist and "don't do it again", towards those who crank up this type of provocation need to be dealt with in a way that sends out a far stronger message. At the very least they should be banned from any further marches.

The police officer who said a Jew “was openly Jewish”

France never allowed the Palestine marches as they knew how divisive and antagonistic and antisemitic they would be and a danger to the country.They would give license to all who hate Jews to vent their hate.

Remember that it isn’t just a few marches, it’s happened every week for years.This will and does seep into the way people think of Jews, any Jews anywhere in the world.

Anniebach

The police officer who said a Jew “was openly Jewish”

For wearing his kippah.🙈

Allira

Strange, though, that there is a proliferation of Palestinian flags which are tolerated and cheered on the streets of Britain yet we are frowned on if we display our national flag.

We should be proud to be British, a people who are generally tolerant, without being accused of being followers of Farage and the thug Tommy Robinson.

I agree.

Our flags are cherished symbols that have been appropriated by an ignorant political faction.

Yes Oreo openly Jewish wearing a kippah ,his chief supported him

Oreo

France never allowed the Palestine marches as they knew how divisive and antagonistic and antisemitic they would be and a danger to the country.They would give license to all who hate Jews to vent their hate.

Is there some better way to express disapproval of present Israeli foreign policy?

Oreo

Remember that it isn’t just a few marches, it’s happened every week for years.This will and does seep into the way people think of Jews, any Jews anywhere in the world.

But there are many who are opposed to Israeli aggression towards Palestinians and who know Judaism to be a religion of peace.

My thoughts have always been, since much of this kicked off, and before it reached the stage it has now with Jewish areas being specifically targeted by terrorists. Deliberate acts of hostility have been allowed to go on unchecked for quite a while. Anti semetism has been underplayed and conflated with racism per se, when in fact it's very specific. Which has added no doubt to the disquiet our Jewish communities feel and who can blame them. In particular, convoys of cars driving into Jewish areas shouting "rape Jewish women" Nothing! the silence was deafening in the aftermath. I'd put money on it the police would be on it if that had happened in say a Muslim area. Just to be clear, obviously that sort of hatred should be stamped whichever demographic it's perpetuated against.

Well - union flags arrived in many areas in my town, including the fairly wealthy, largely white areas. My village organised a St George’s day celebration. Numerous of the flags associated with him on display. Fun bbq and family entertainment. Our growing population of African asylum families joined the fun.

I do hope posters here who talk about union flags only appearing in areas of high deprivation, where they feel threatened by “the kind of people” who put the flags up, occasionally find places like mine to visit

Well I can assure you that in sleepy, wealthy enough areas of Devon we have Union flags in many areas too. To celebrate all sorts of festivals, and also because we have many military people living here to whom we offer our support. It looks rather quaint.

I think you'd get a few frowns or laughs if you suggested this was due to deprivation, or hatred from ignoramuses.

Deliberate acts of hostility (towards Jews) have been allowed to go on unchecked for quite a while.

So we need to question why that is.

Caleo

Oreo

Remember that it isn’t just a few marches, it’s happened every week for years.This will and does seep into the way people think of Jews, any Jews anywhere in the world.

But there are many who are opposed to Israeli aggression towards Palestinians and who know Judaism to be a religion of peace.

There are also very many who simply hate Jews.

I agree with Oreo here. There has always been hatred of Jews. It has just come more to the surface now.
As a child in the 50s I was aware that people hated Jews I just didn't understand why and my questioning resulted in unsatisfactory answers.
There were attacks on Jews then but it has sadly increased.
A Jewish friend of my mum's was attacked and badly beaten by thugs in the 60s.
So the haters have always been there. It's nothing new but they are much more overt now and our society is more violent.

And social media

Yes social media adds to the ease with which tropes are spread as truth.

We also have a role model for some in the Whitehouse, spilling bile with no challenge. Remember “they’re eating cats and dogs” and much worse. No challenge at all.

MartavTaurus

Well I can assure you that in sleepy, wealthy enough areas of Devon we have Union flags in many areas too. To celebrate all sorts of festivals, and also because we have many military people living here to whom we offer our support. It looks rather quaint.

I think you'd get a few frowns or laughs if you suggested this was due to deprivation, or hatred from ignoramuses.

Flags flying to celebrate festivals and supporting the military have been hung with different intent - as I'm sure you know. It is ingenuous to suggest that they represent the same values as the torn and dirty rags which appeared overnight on lamp posts.

Iam64

Well - union flags arrived in many areas in my town, including the fairly wealthy, largely white areas. My village organised a St George’s day celebration. Numerous of the flags associated with him on display. Fun bbq and family entertainment. Our growing population of African asylum families joined the fun.

I do hope posters here who talk about union flags only appearing in areas of high deprivation, where they feel threatened by “the kind of people” who put the flags up, occasionally find places like mine to visit

I hope I'm not included in those kind of posters.

Oreo

twaddle

Who are "all" these people?

You know full well, the usual apologists.

Oh, them? Well, if you can actually come up with a meaningful answer, please try again.

What that means is only a certain class can fly the flag. We also can't 'police' flags on what we think us going on in someone's head. If that was the case I would ban all pride flags as I think they are a symbol of misogyny.

twaddle

Oreo

twaddle

Who are "all" these people?

You know full well, the usual apologists.

Oh, them? Well, if you can actually come up with a meaningful answer, please try again.

Inteeesting that posters can change their name but not their style.

Well in the area I mentioned, I had to pull into a small side road for a desperate wee.

But invisible from the road, were large UK and England flags, and a written statement on the gate of the property extolling Reform and all its values and ill thought out remarks about anyone who didn't agree.

Shoulda taken a quick photo snap, but them someone might have come out and accused me of emergency wee-ing on the road outside their property 🤣

In my post questioning the negative assumptions associated with union flags and deprived areas, I pointed out one village with flags on every lamp post is one of the wealthiest in my town.

Some folk are so full of negative associations with the union and England flags they make assumptions which like,y have some but not total truth in them.

They’re our flags. We ought not to feel ashamed or threatened by them