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Another appalling attack

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Cossy Wed 29-Apr-26 13:04:56

My heart goes out to the Jewish community in Golders Green.

I utterly condemn these attacks and wish the stabbing victims a full and speedy recovery.

TerriBull Wed 29-Apr-26 13:16:13

Another horrifying attack on innocent people. I do hope the two that have been seriously injured make a full recovery.

I honestly believe our Jewish community are now the most vulnerable to terrorism, more so than any other demographic in this country.

ronib Wed 29-Apr-26 13:17:19

Utter condemnation is having zero effect.

Cossy Wed 29-Apr-26 13:23:22

ronib

Utter condemnation is having zero effect.

There’s not much else you and I can do?

Casdon Wed 29-Apr-26 13:27:31

Horrible. I’m glad they have caught the perpetrator.

Sarnia Wed 29-Apr-26 13:29:26

Recent reports say a rising number of Jewish people no longer feel safe here and are considering emigrating. Who can blame them?

Cossy Wed 29-Apr-26 13:32:02

Sarnia

Recent reports say a rising number of Jewish people no longer feel safe here and are considering emigrating. Who can blame them?

Who indeed! I think the MoL needs to put a few more police in this area, but it’s also hard to see if a random bloke suddenly bobs up and starts stabbing people how this itself could be stopped?

This community deserves to be able to about their daily basis safely.

AGAA4 Wed 29-Apr-26 13:56:12

The police are severely stretched and they are patrolling more around synagogues. It would be very difficult to stop this as random attacks such as this one can happen anywhere at any time.
It is sickening that violence against the Jewish community is getting worse. All we can do is condemn it as much as possible but it won't stop those who hate Jews carrying out this despicable and senseless violence.
Just come up on my newsfeed that a Jewish man is now stable. Wishing him well.

ronib Wed 29-Apr-26 14:00:04

This problem needs much more budget spent on it. I think there needs to be a dedicated counter terrorism unit assigned to deal with anti semitism. The problem is not going away but seems to be gathering momentum. Not a satisfactory response from government so far.

MartavTaurus Wed 29-Apr-26 14:16:51

This is what we've come to expect regularly now.
And it's so wrong.

Oreo Wed 29-Apr-26 16:27:28

MartavTaurus

This is what we've come to expect regularly now.
And it's so wrong.

You’re right, it’s hardly a shock now and we have def come to expect it.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-Apr-26 16:33:11

I can remember posting many months ago that our Jewish friends and their family no longer felt safe here in the UK.

I was told by several posters that they were overreacting…

keepingquiet Wed 29-Apr-26 16:37:04

The suspect has been charged. The truth behind it I hope will come out and lessons learned.

I agree it must be frightening for the community.

Any stabbing like this is wrong, regardless of who you are. People should be allowed to go about their business without this happening to them.

fancythat Wed 29-Apr-26 17:04:53

GrannyGravy13

I can remember posting many months ago that our Jewish friends and their family no longer felt safe here in the UK.

I was told by several posters that they were overreacting…

Cant see how they could say it now.

And no one has on this particular thread.

MartavTaurus Wed 29-Apr-26 17:18:49

fancythat

GrannyGravy13

I can remember posting many months ago that our Jewish friends and their family no longer felt safe here in the UK.

I was told by several posters that they were overreacting…

Cant see how they could say it now.

And no one has on this particular thread.

Yes, they did at the time. And some accused a couple of Jewish posters on here of being hysterical and worked up.
To be fair, I think of late we have a far more understanding readership of the problem on here.
Or is it because antisemitism is now blatantly staring everyone in the face and can no longer be played down?
Personally I knew it was always there.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Apr-26 17:25:44

It must be so worrying for people particularly those with children I think.

I can understand the reasoning behind moving.

I would definitely move out of an area if I was Jewish and it had a high concentration of Jewish folk.

Too easy for terrorists to identify a group and cause mayhem. Not so easy if as a Jewish person I spread myself into the local community, although if I am a practicing Jew the synagogue must be a risk.

DH has just said that the person arrested has mental health issues?

So many of these dreadful acts are carried out by people who are seriously ill. It does need addressing.

sixandahalf Wed 29-Apr-26 17:25:53

GrannyGravy13

I can remember posting many months ago that our Jewish friends and their family no longer felt safe here in the UK.

I was told by several posters that they were overreacting…

I don't recall anybody saying that.

A lot of people from many different groups are apprehensive right now.

Casdon Wed 29-Apr-26 17:30:17

I have said on several previous threads that what is happening in the UK is symptomatic of what is happening more widely in Europe too.

AI Overview
Antisemitic incidents in Europe have surged dramatically since the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel, with reports indicating a massive increase in violence, vandalism, and online hate. Data shows incidents rising by 1,000% in France and over 300% in Austria, with 96% of European Jews reporting encounters with antisemitic sentiment, according to the Fundamental Rights Agency (FRA).
Program on Extremism
+3

Key findings regarding the surge in antisemitism include:

Unprecedented Spikes: Since October 7, 2023, incidents have soared across Europe, including a 320% rise in Germany.

Regional Trends: In the first half of 2024, the UK saw a record high with a 158% increase in threats and a 465% rise in university-related incidents.

Physical and Digital Attacks: Incidents range from harassment and intimidation to graffiti, arson, and direct physical attacks.

Root Causes: The rise is heavily linked to the Israel-Hamas conflict, with incidents often intensifying during escalations in the Middle East.

Impact on Community: More than 96% of Jews in the EU report experiencing antisemitism in their daily lives, according to reports from the EU Fundamental Rights Agency.

Government Action: European governments have implemented enhanced security for Jewish sites, and in Germany, the phrase "from the river to the sea" is now legally classified as a criminal offense.

Program on Extremism
+8
The European Commission has described the spike as "reminiscent of some of the darkest times in history," urging action against online hate.
www.vox.com
+2

Fradders Wed 29-Apr-26 17:43:42

Glad they caught him,but having seen the video of the arrest,it is utterly disgraceful.Two policeman repeatedly kicking the suspect in the head!…….this is when he was on the ground having already been tasered!Lucky he is still alive,they were really kicking him hard.Glad it is on video though.

nanaK54 Wed 29-Apr-26 17:46:11

Fradders

Glad they caught him,but having seen the video of the arrest,it is utterly disgraceful.Two policeman repeatedly kicking the suspect in the head!…….this is when he was on the ground having already been tasered!Lucky he is still alive,they were really kicking him hard.Glad it is on video though.

Are you being serious?
He was still armed and refusing to drop the knife.

Galaxy Wed 29-Apr-26 17:54:21

They should have just asked him nicely.

Casdon Wed 29-Apr-26 17:57:53

The police officers were unarmed. They did not know if he had a gun or bomb, he concealed his hand apparently. They were brave to tackle him in my view.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Apr-26 17:58:56

sixandahalf

GrannyGravy13

I can remember posting many months ago that our Jewish friends and their family no longer felt safe here in the UK.

I was told by several posters that they were overreacting…

I don't recall anybody saying that.

A lot of people from many different groups are apprehensive right now.

Well I certainly remember those comments.

WWM2 says in her post that she would think of moving out of an area with a high Jewish community if she was Jewish. That's her honest response but isn't it absolutely disgraceful to even think of that as a solution? I don't mean you're disgraceful WWM2, but that moving away to a less 'Jewish area' being a solution some will feel compelled to take is disgraceful.

The leader of the Green Party, Zack Polanski, a Jew himself but not religious or practising, came in for criticism having suggested that it could be a 'perception of danger' amongst Jews and not a real one. Let him tell that to the two men stabbed today. The police are treating it as a terrorist incident, they don't do that lightly, but of course antisemitics will try to play it down and reduce the seriousness.

Those of us with Jewish family and friends see their fear and concern, it is not imagined.

Galaxy Wed 29-Apr-26 18:00:05

If they had been armed police they would have had every right to shoot him.

sundowngirl Wed 29-Apr-26 18:00:43

Cossy

ronib

Utter condemnation is having zero effect.

There’s not much else you and I can do?

Maybe we can’t do anything personally but the Government could ban the weekly demonstrations for Palestine which seem to incite the crowd and increases the hatred toward Jews.