Disappearing contributers

I’ve emailed Justine.

I’ve just read the whole thread.
I know of Allira, but not noticed anything controversial from her and wasn’t aware of a different name being used.
There are some not very nice people on here if she’s been reported off the site.

If it is felt reporting our posts isntt enough then please will someone post any useful email addresses to use and we can get on with writing?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Another here who has just emailed Justine. 🤞

Thank you 👏👏👏👏

Wyllow3

If it is felt reporting our posts isntt enough then please will someone post any useful email addresses to use and we can get on with writing?

I did. Page 16.
That goes to Justine Roberts office.

fancythat

I have ben away from this forum for nearly two weeks.
No real idea of what happened.
I have read this thread.

There was a post by someone from Gransnet HQ right at the beginning of this thread.

If there is a new CEO, if I was her, I would pull the plug on Gransnet if they get browbeaten by it.
It has always been a loss maker.

Tell contributers to just join Mumsnet if they wanted to. Make Mumsnet for all ages[which I assume it is already?].

Well you have truely nailed your colours to the mast.
At least you’re honest enough to post that you support the decision to ban a member on spurious information.
Ignoring this thread when it’s a plain as the nose on your face that everyone is shocked and appalled.

I value the relative lack of press reporting. There are so many of us who write and share out of need very private matters, asking for help on this or that. We want a relatively safe space and on the whole GN does give us that.
You do all know that there is a Facebook page which can be read by anyone, and reproduces threads from on here?

This is not a private space.

Dickens

Maggiemaybe

I know for a fact that there are, or have been, cliques on GN who orchestrate multiple reporting to get posters banned. I know this because many years ago I was included by mistake in the PMs discussing it.

Good heavens! But, that was useful - at least you knew what the mean-girls were up to, and that sheds some light on why some posters disappeared.

I remember there were a couple of members who were a tad controversial - and awkward... but I usually found it easy enough to give as good as I got (so to speak) if I was targeted... or just log out of GN and go do something else!

But - Allira? How can anyone be offended by her comments?

There was one where rosesarered was linked into a PM where they were discussing how to wind her up.
Very sad.

Oh yes, i genuinely had forgotten that.
Soneone told me way back thay a thread I'd made here was now on Facebook, which i never use ad have never used.
It was a fairly divisory thread, too, and the mods here refused to remove it as "I had been given some useful advice" on it.

So beware!

Doodledog

*I value the relative lack of press reporting. There are so many of us who write and share out of need very private matters, asking for help on this or that. We want a relatively safe space and on the whole GN does give us that.*
You do all know that there is a Facebook page which can be read by anyone, and reproduces threads from on here?

This is not a private space.

There’s also a MN page on TrustPilot. 😉

No it isn't and with the greatest respect no press will be interested in the banning of a poster on an Internet site. As I have said this happened a number of times on MN, it never made the Guardian or the Mail!

Sorry that was not it isn't to it being a private space. You can see this current thread for example if you put a few key words into Google

I tried to email on the link on p16 but I'd have to agree to all sorts of cookies so I didn't go ahead. I'll maybe just report myself to GNHQ ? Hope that works.

At least you’re honest enough to post that you support the decision to ban a member on spurious information.

How can I support or otherwise, when I have no idea what happened?
I dont do that in real life, when I have almost no facts, nor do it online. Nor anywhere.

And stop putting words in my mouth.
I really dont like it when people do that
It feels like either a dishonest, misleading, or not taking time to read things properly, thing for a person to do.
It is reading things that are not actually there.
Not taking the time.

Getting back to what I actually, really did post, I really would be careful swamping HQ.
A few people doing it fair enough, but most people doing it, is tantamount to biting off the hand that feeds you.
Unwise in my opinion.
Especially in the current GN situation.
With I assume, many things under review.

GN, I would have thought, and assume, is reading this thread. Though that is not necessarily the case I suppose.

From what you posted a few posts ago, sounds like you are on last warnings anyway. So maybe you dont care whether this site gets closed or not.
But other posters do.

This is not a private space.

It is, legally I think, counted as publishing.

I always rather like that thought, that we are all publishing.

On a quiet day news wise the press will pick up anything. And to repeat this is not a private place. It's not a cosy group of GNs who all know each other.

Aveline

I tried to email on the link on p16 but I'd have to agree to all sorts of cookies so I didn't go ahead. I'll maybe just report myself to GNHQ ? Hope that works.

Just use your regular email way and address it to [email protected]. I'm sure that will work. I didn't use the link because it automatically took me to sending from an email I only use for family, and I couldn't seem to change it.

Smileless2012

I'm glad you're not the CEO fancythat, it would be awful to lose GN.

Yes - I suppose we could totter over to MN (as some already do sometimes), but the fact that GN is, obviously, age-specific would, I believe, prohibit many from posting there.

The recent highlights of GN for me have been the Bereavement threads and one absorbing topic on Classical Music.

When I lost my beloved partner just last year I stopped posting for a while, but I did eventually start reading without commenting... it was like listening to friends and acquaintances chatting in another room, knowing I could join them eventually - and it was comforting. I also read the bereavement threads and found solace from the posts on there.

I now live alone. I have friends, but no family here in the UK. GN is an important part of my coming to terms with a new way of life; at the risk of over-sentimentalising - the familiar posters - and even those I disagree with or even cross swords with, allow me to feel part of a community.

So, yes - I too feel it would be awful to lose GN.

It really makes my heart sing to see the majority of us standing together as one to support a much admired member.

Allira. Hang on in there, we are all here awaiting your return, if there’s any justice this will happen!

Is anyone allowed to say the previous name Allira used to post under?

Just to see if it’s one I recognise, as I can’t recall it.

I hate it when someone is banned.

And yes, Maws, some of us certainly recall ✈️👜.

Not sorry to see that one go though.

For anybody still in doubt why so many of us are up in arms about this ban I'll quote once again from PhilipGransnet's post on page 1
what we can say is that we do not ban posters arbitrarily - there is a process. And unless a poster is an obvious spammer or a troll they are afforded many opportunities to adhere to our guidelines before we would ban.
Pip.

Given that Allira is never offensive, and as far as we're aware has not been given many opportunities to adhere to our guidelines this doesn't ring true in this case. It comes across to me as a polite way of telling us to shut up because we don't know the behind the scenes actions.

I've had a polite but non informative response to my reporting myself.
Anyone remember Callistemon btw!
Calendargirl take note.

petra

MayBee70

petra

Galaxy

I think the size of the site partly causes that, as I have said before, when I spent time mostly on MN, it was only on the feminism threads or the archers thread! where I would recognise a few names. Other than that I was talking to people I didn't 'know'.

It’s the best of GN and the worst of GN. It’s lovely tgat we get to know each other and become real friends. But the flip side is members take some comments too personally.
Let’s say a member told me to put a sock in it I would probably laugh😂 It can’t be personal because you don’t know me.

If you’re sitting at home on your own and someone says something like that to you and you read it in the early hours of the morning it can be pretty upsetting. I don’t think the internet is impersonal because you’re reading it in the security of your own home but someone has entered your own space where you should feel safe. Difficult to explain if it hasn’t happened to you but someone on another forum did that to me years ago and I felt as if a bucket of cold water had been poured over me. We must all be aware that we don’t know what’s happening to someone in their personal life. And some people, me included, have used the internet at times in their life when they’re feeling very lonely.

MayBee70
I can only say is: I hope you never get the email that Allira received. The Mods have no idea of the physical problems she’s suffering. She doesn’t broadcast it.
And now she’s trying to work with GN and they’re ignoring her.😥

I don’t know of the exact physical problems you refer to but I do know she recently had a TKR as she was on a relevant thread, as it’s something I will be having at some point, which is why it concerns me that someone who may be more housebound now ( which is where I am, too, and it gets me down mentally; I rely a great deal on the internet) has been cut off from a means of communicating with people socially. So I, too, have voiced my opinion to HQ.

Yes, just go to the link given by petra then make a note of Justine's email, then send a message in the usual way.
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