“Wives create their husbands”

Read them again, don’t agree with you grandad.

So, men are the only one's that leave doors open etc, that correct PamelaJ1.

Statements such as the above are TOTAL SEXISM.

FHS, Grandad, you see sexism round every corner and would appear to have a chip on your shoulder about it!!
Posts on here are practically without exception tongue in cheek comments from loving wives and partners, who wouldn't swap their untidy, door leaving open husbands for all the world! It's just banter, a bit of fun, women have talked about their partners in this way since time began, men almost always don't mind, mine certainly doesn't! He knows he's the untidiest man in all England, but he cooks, and helps in so many ways on the domestic front as I do in the garden etc, and yes we've been very happily married for 54 years and love each other dearly, warts and all!!

Grandad1943 my OH is the tidiest worker you could ever hope to meet ,he clears his desk before starting on the next job.ME,I work in a muddle but I get things done and done fast when needed.We realise we have different strengths and I believe thats the secret to a good marriage ,I would never criticise his way nor him mine.I have NEVER nagged him,he'll happily tell you that.He will also tell you our daughter nagged him from she learned to talk .She didn't learn it from me !

All these posts about unhelpful husbands, I must be so lucky.
My husbands Mother died when we was 16 & had to learn fast how to look after himself & do housework etc.
Not so lucky for him at the time, he must have been so sad.
As a result for over 50 years we have shared all the jobs, housework, cooking & so on.

My DH is so stubborn I have never been able to train him. Even if I complain about the toilet seat etc he does nothing about it. I have to use certain techniques to get him to do anything I want so I choose my battles wisely. We have been married 50 years this year so nothing it going to change.

What's wrong with sexism anyway?

Wives can create and improve husbands although she had better start with a good one, that will depend on his parents.

There is a lot of truth in the saying that women turn out like their mother, men turn out like their father. So if your man was brought up in a chaotic, aggressive household he will think that is normal behavior.

Polly48 Absolutely no chance for me! He was a bully. A covert narcissist, cruel and manipulative.
My mother probably tried to manipulate my dad, she was always giving him a hard time and making him work himself to death for her.

My mother's cynical comment on this topic was that a lot of women fall in love with a man, and, as soon as they are married start changing him. When he no longer resembles the man they fell in love with, they either turn into bitter old women, or divorce hubby.

I suspect a lot of men probably would have agreed with her point of view.

I loved that book and others by NW

She obviously had the right touch. Lucky lady.

Grandad, no they aren’t.
If asked my DH would say I drive him up the wall because I never put the phone back on it’s charger.
We all have our little ways. Thank goodness my husband has a SOH.

Polly48 How can I have been unaware of the existence of a talent like Niall Williams? I've just read a couple of chapters online (History of the Rain) and am completely hooked!

Many thanks for the introduction.

I have trained myself over the years to shut all the cupboard doors and drawers that DH leaves open and to empty the dirty water from the sink after he has washed up.

I've given up trying to train him to shut them and to clean the sink after washing up (at least he washes up sometimes).

I can only speak for him, not men in general as my oldest Db was completely different.

Acceptance of each other’s ‘foibles’ and separate bathrooms seems to work in our house! Both have traits that would drive the other mad if we concentrated on them, but have learnt to ignore and accept!

Polyester57, take him on as he is? Are you mad?

I love these threads!
Its glaringly obvious that they're tongue in cheek.
Well... to me it is.

It is to me too!! ??

“She sinks into his arms and ends up with her arms in his sink” So true.

This is all going on the assumption that you need to change your man to suit you. How about just taking him on as he is and finding a way to fit in with that?

*polyester
That would mean that the woman would have to change her ways and we know that women are always right!

We each have to grace to change ourselves to better love each other.

But that line will likely sell fewer books.

the grace not to grace

Jalima- sometimes our house looks like it’s been burgled!
Like you I’m trained and simply quietly, quiet is important, shut all the wardrobe doors a drawers.
It’s only when he’s left an unexpected one open and I walk into it that I respond.
Then, of course, I share the bruise again and again and........?

Very patronising, (the original premise).