Couple die on holiday

And 40 more people in the hotel are now ill

Not cynical!
Why on earth move all the guests out? A tragedy, however sounds very suspicious to me and if they were my relatives I would want a whole lot more information.
In fact I think I would want PMs done in the UK.

Terribly sad when someone dies on holiday, having been a rep for 13 years I have dealt with families in such circumstances. Unexplained deaths are a different situation though and Thos Cook are merely being expedient by removing guests.

On the BBC news site this morning there was a video of another previous guest who said that they had been ill at the same hotel earlier this Summer. She said that they didn't inform the Thomas Cook rep as it was near the end of her holiday. Can I just point out that this is an extremely selfish thing to do, all guests should always inform their rep of any illness regardless of how badly, and when they are suffering, logs are kept and checked at least weekly to monitor any signs of a possible problem that may be emerging. This way epidemics can be averted, so please, any of you Gransnetters going abroad, keep this in mind should you be unfortunate enough to become ill, your rep is there to help you.

Just as an extra thought with the current tightening up of compensation claims after so many 'false' claims, if you have reported it in resort your claim will be dealt with much more quickly and sympathetically.

Sounds very fishy to me, too, BlueBelle. Think it highly unlikely that the deaths were the result of any natural causes. I'd put money on faulty systems insufficiently well maintained. There was a programme on TV not long ago showing that the higher the star grading for hotel amenities, the more likely it was that standards for general cleanliness and repairs took a back seat......

I don't think it's right to make people feel guilty missdeke. They probably felt they were doing the right thing.

From the NHS web site: “Legionnaires' disease is a lung infection you can catch by inhaling droplets of water from things like air conditioning or hot tubs. It's uncommon but can be very serious. You can catch Legionnaires' disease if you breathe in tiny droplets of water containing bacteria that cause the infection. It's usually caught in places like hotels, hospitals or offices where the bacteria have got into the water supply. It's very rare to catch it at home. You can catch it from air conditioning systems, spa pools and hot tubs, showers, taps and toilets.” If you have Legionnaire's you cant breathe properly, you have chest pain, you feel as if you have flu.

Seems very suspicious to me.

Broken heart isn't a medical condition. What nonsense gets into the news sometimes!

If similar situation had been in UK there would certainly be investigation and post mortum carried out. The woman apparently worked in a branch of Thomas Cook. So so sad for daughter. Hopefully if deceased are returned to UK there will be some medical investigations carried out.

I do hope that there will be a proper post-mortem and an inquest in the UK.

I have heard of cases like this where one partner has died and the other one shortly afterwards; perhaps both may have thought they were fit and healthy but had undetected problems. However, the fact that everyone else has been moved from the hotel and that there have been previous problems seem to be cause for suspicion.

The poor daughter, what a shock.

Broken heart isn't a medical condition. What nonsense gets into the news sometimes!
No, it's not, but we had a case in the wider family not long ago where the wife died and the, previously healthy, husband had a heart attack a couple of days later.

Yeah, but he died of a heart attack, probably provoked by his wife's death. All the same it was heart attack, not "broken heart"

There is in fact a particular condition known colloquially as Broken Heart Syndrome aka stress cardiomyopathy.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takotsubo_cardiomyopathy

It's such an awful story, the poor daughter must be reeling in shock.

annep I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty, just to say even when you are feeling ill. it's so important to ensure whatever you have is not either infectious or due to an external problem to safeguard other holidaymakers. Whilst I was on holiday years ago I got Coli Campylobacter and it is a highly infectious disease, so much so that when I returned to the UK it had to be reported.

Nobody would purposely go out amongst others if they knew they were infected with something, so surely common sense would tell you that in a social situation like a hotel it's only common sense to ensure that you report illness to your holiday company.

The latest I read is that the travel co are moving people out of the hotel due to a food poisoning scare.

We all die of a stoppage of the circulatory system! What causes said stoppage is the important bit...

Awful thing to happen and what a shock for DD. DH and I were wondering if it was something like salmonella from badly prepared food. Apparently others had felt ill with stomach cramps etc.

Exactly Nannytopsy everyone dies because their heart stops beating or they stop breathing, and one usually precipitates the other.

Post-mortems don’t always reveal the cause of death either.

Whilst the heart does not literally break, there is such a thing as 'broken heart syndrome'
It turns out that a broken heart is an actual medical condition. Broken heart syndrome occurs during highly stressful or emotional times, such as a painful breakup, the death of a spouse, the loss of a job or extreme anger, said Loyola University Health System cardiologist Dr. Binh An P. Phan.
Broken heart syndrome also is called stress cardiomyopathy.

I would bet a pound to a penny this was nothing to do with a broken heart the poor wife had barely found out her husband had died before she went too far too much of a coincidence
I just hope the bodies are returned to uk and some extensive tests done I think legionnaires is a definite possibility but it would need a completely neutral examiner and unfortunately Egypt lives off tourism so I m not at all sure they would want to find out, much easier to say natural causes and broken hearts

Well for sure there is going to be compensation if investigation shows the hotel responsible..
If they had taken out medical insurance they would have disclosed whether they had any medical problems and had sought medical advice prior to the holiday for that specific problem. Pay out depends on this
If death by a medical issue unrelated to that on the insurance then all expenses incurred by those ie relatives who are left to deal with these tragic circumstances will be paid for by the insurers.
I imagine that the company they booked through will leave no stone unturned.

Ready Meals .Didn't his wife die after her husband and not before????

This is decidedly strange, fit & healthy couple in their 60s (not elderly, they were still working, lady worked for Thomas Cook in Burnley, the Branch where she worked was closed yesterday), daughter has arranged a private post mortem to be carried out. My sympathy to her

I wonder, was the hotel notified as to when the inspection would take place? Is that the general rule for all hotels?
I should imagine that giving a clean bill of health on 1 day a year, does not mean that it's upheld for the other 364 days.
I know that Macdonald hotels have, in the past, had a different attitude once the inspectors have left. Similarly, having your boiler serviced on one day a year does not mean that it's ok for the other 364, it merely means that on that day at that time, it passed muster.

Bluebelle 'Same way' '? as in' I am going the same way as you'.
Post Mortem not Post motel

My grandma's next door neighbours died within an day of each other. The wife rushed to my gran's house to say she thought her husband had died. Gran and another neighbour went next door to see him and call medical help. Sadly he had died. When they got back to gran's house the wife had suffered a heart attack and died later that day. It can happen! But it all needs proper investigation.