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Are you middle class?

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cinnamonstix Thu 14-Apr-16 14:09:30

...And what makes you middle class? I was browsing through over on The Other Side, and they've got a similar thread.

I don't know when I think about myself. I think it's harder to define what middle/working class is nowadays. Most people own homes (with a mortgage), have had university education etc.

Alea Thu 14-Apr-16 16:25:37

Just <sigh>

Gracesgran Thu 14-Apr-16 16:32:35

Ugh! I can't find the quiz - not that I think it is very important. I live a life of elegant economy - just like they did in Cranford. I have no idea where that fits in. Does all this really matter or is there even any worthwhile truth in it?

Babs1952 Thu 14-Apr-16 16:35:37

New affluent worker which is odd as I've always considered myself working class and proud!

kittylester Thu 14-Apr-16 17:07:53

I did it when we discussed it before and can't remember what it said I was. But, it got it wrong. grin

Lillie Thu 14-Apr-16 17:09:23

What?? I am established middle class, whatever that means??
Went to a rough London comprehensive, then to London University, became Headmistress at a private school, have a common accent and no idea about etiquette. I'm happy to vary my "class" depending on whom I'm with or to whom I'm speaking.

ninathenana Thu 14-Apr-16 17:20:07

I opened the link for the test, but the test wouldn't start sad
f77ms my reply was tongue in cheek smile as I said does it matter.

merlotgran Thu 14-Apr-16 17:25:34

I'm technical middle class as well.

Does that mean owns your own home but needs to be good at DIY?

pompa Thu 14-Apr-16 17:26:40

Is there a couch potato class ?

Lupatria Thu 14-Apr-16 17:55:04

ha ha - I've done the test and i'm a new affluent worker but I don't fit the description of the people who are new affluent workers - personally I think i'm lower middle class or upper working class!!

Galen Thu 14-Apr-16 18:25:00

Established middle class for what it's worth

ffinnochio Thu 14-Apr-16 18:36:00

Classless. Others can think what they like. It's who you are, not what you are that matters
#rantcentral

granjura Thu 14-Apr-16 18:40:28

who cares?

Elegran Thu 14-Apr-16 19:25:31

We did this test before. My result was a load of rubbish. There were questions on "Do you occasionally or often go to the opera?", ditto ballet and concerts. As I had not done any of those for about a year, I answered "no" to all three. Came out as traditional working class.

Then I decided that "occasionally" could mean once a year, so I went back and did the test again, the only change was the "kulcher" one. I came out as elite!!!

So if you are working class but like music and dance (occasionally), you suddenly become elite.

Rubbish!

dogsmother Thu 14-Apr-16 19:29:53

Established middle class, I am guessing its based on a huge range of people in our 'local' coming from all walks of life....

grumppa Thu 14-Apr-16 19:43:38

I am delighted to be in your company as elite, elegran, but I felt that in my case the result was built on pretty scanty evidence!

granjura Thu 14-Apr-16 19:47:24

Elegran agreed the questions are nonsense and so so stereotypical - daft.

Cherrytree59 Thu 14-Apr-16 20:06:08

Work to earn a crust.
So got to be working class!
I have come across people who I call
'Posh Poor',as they would consider themselves very middle class or even upper class , but don't have two pennies to rub together.

Galen Thu 14-Apr-16 20:33:21

Can't get to opera or ballet, much as I'd like to. I used to . And Stratford for a bit of Shakespeare

Penstemmon Thu 14-Apr-16 21:48:25

YES!
I would be classed by marketresearchers/ pollsters as "Middle Class": home owner /higher level education/Masters Degree/professional qualification/ job involved line managing large no. of staff etc etc. but no inherited land/home/wealth so had to work for a living.

I have never been enbarrassed by being "middle class" even when it has been very unfashionable to be so! I am who I am and was fortunate to be born to parents ( one working class, one foreign) who were open minded, politically aware, valued the importance of work, family life, education, good citizenship & community involvement. These attitudes and values are not 'class' based but I think contribute to making a generation able to 'transition' from working class to middle class.

DH is also "middle class" now but like may came from what would have been classed as "working class" family. Privately rented 'rooms' (eventually rehoused to council flat), dad an electrician, mum shop worker. Again his parents really valued education, strong work ethic etc etc. DH passed 11+ and went to local grammar school and mixed with a range of boys some from similar backgrounds but many with more affluent /professional homes.

Maybe like immigrants one can be first/second/third etc generation middle class grin

Trouble is that 'blurring' of class lines happened after WW2 in the growth years and into the 60s.when there was lots of "social mobility" The social and economic context is not the same now and there is not the national / political drive to improve the opportunities for ordinary people in the same way as after WW2.

Class is more aboutvalues and attitudes than wealth or lack of!

poshpaws Thu 14-Apr-16 23:10:12

I think I qualify as middle class - Mum & Dad were very successfully upwardly mobile all their lives, and Dad retired with an OBE for his work in the Scottish Health Service. My husband & I were both qualified Social Workers. So far, so good. However, we ran a mixed species animal rescue off our own money as we didn't want all the faffing and officialdom of seeking charity status, and we still have many animals and birds with the result that since my husband retired, we're dirt poor and living in a falling down house. So that'd make us an anomaly in middle class terms.

But who really cares? Nobody who's worth caring about!

I know a local family who are stinking rich, and despised by many, because they genuinely appear to believe that they are better than those with less money, and are entitled to respect! No, no, no - you earn respect, it's got b-all to do with class.

harrigran Thu 14-Apr-16 23:29:17

Established middle class, according to the quiz. DH top management and OBE. We have two homes and children were privately educated.
In reality I am no different to anybody else.

Eloethan Thu 14-Apr-16 23:33:54

In my view, there are just two "classes" of people - those that need to work or to receive benefits in order to live, and those who can live off the the interest and dividends that their wealth provides for them.

There have been so many different definitions of what class is and, I believe, an unhelpful preoccupation with who belongs to which class. At one time I seem to recall it was determined primarily by the sort of job that a person did, save for the "upper class" which was split into two levels upper upper - aristocrats/landed gentry/ "old money" and lower upper - business owners/entrepreneurs/"new money". Different class structure models put different emphases on various other factors, such as education/parents' education, "lifestyle", blue collar/white collar/professional occupation, etc. etc. To my mind, it is all a nonsense.

I can see no point in having a class model, other than to make the majority of people believe they are superior/more deserving than one group and/or inferior/less deserving than another (as the TW3 Corbett, Barker and Cleese sketch demonstrated so well).

Anniebach Thu 14-Apr-16 23:38:27

I have no time for class, it just keeps people in their little boxes and massages ego, so Hyacinth Bucket

harrigran Thu 14-Apr-16 23:48:12

My mother was so Hyacinth Bucket in fact my dad's nickname for her was Mrs Bucket and that was thirty years before the TV series.

kittylester Fri 15-Apr-16 07:33:50

In my opinion being middle class is very little to do with how much money one has.

And, we all know that Hyacinth Bucket was the based on my mum! grin