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wildrose Mon 08-Feb-16 18:25:50

Just wanted to get some perspective on this though I may already have made sense of my position. I had to give up my job due to ill health (a chronic condition and my employers had been fantastic - leaving was my choice) The first 12 weeks were actually sick leave which covered my notice period but, since then, I've had good and bad days health wise and am well into this new way of life. I started out "reassuring" those around me who couldn't conceive of me "doing nothing" all day that I would probably look for voluntary work in the New Year or perhaps even look for a job involving just a couple of mornings a week. However, I'm feeling (or at least THINK I'm feeling!) that I don't want that at all. My husband is at home as he took early retirement while having cancer treatment which is still ongoing. We manage financially on my small savings and his pension though will need to tighten our belts further for 3 or so years from 2017 as I have had my state pension delayed. Neither of us claim any benefits and manage well enough. The thing is that we have settled into a way of life that people "warned" us about - our days mostly consist of waking naturally, catching up with news and papers, chatting with each other over coffees, an hour or so doing housework, reading, regular walks (usually to the nearby park, town or shops) but we also have time apart spent with friends or doing other things we each enjoy individually. We have lovely grown up children and we see them every couple of weeks though we catch up every day on the phone. Our new grandchild will be born in a few months time and we are both looking forward to that. So ... we are feeling content, our stress levels are far lower these days and our lives have taken on a distinct laid back, go with the flow feeling. We are addressing diet and exercise regimes and generally taking a step back and we don't miss work at all! It feels right but I can't shake off a vague feeling of guilt! We still have people asking what our plans are and wanting to know how on earth we fill our time. I guess I'm interested to hear from others for whom retirement has turned out this way (I know it's still early days) despite having been highly motivated in our careers. I think it has come as something of a shock ..... Any thoughts? Many thanks for reading this. I feel better having put it all out there!

Rose

weepam Wed 10-Feb-16 13:37:23

Hi,as I,ve mentioned in previous blogs,my wife,Pam and I formed a skiffle band and play to raise money for our chosen charities and recently got filmed at our house by a film crew talking about the 1950's and singing a bit of skiffle.they saw us on YouTube under the name 6-5 specials skiffle band and wanted to interview us for the show which comes on this April on bbc4 called 'the people,s history of pop'.
So that keeps us busy but on top of that Pam does her garden and I,ve just self-published on kindle/amazon my first historical novel set around my beloved Worcestershire in 1316 and it,s called 'the shadow of the archer' by j.writer Davies.so never been busier.it,s great.jwd

LesleyC Wed 10-Feb-16 14:07:11

It sounds wonderful wildrose! What's not to like? I feel like that too about our retirement. We can do what we want, when we want at any time. I did feel a bit lost in the first few weeks through lack of routine and yes I do sometimes feel lazy (despite going to the gym and an occasional voluntary job, as well as all the household jobs that need doing.) In the end we have worked all our lives and deserve our retirement.

Patricia494 Wed 10-Feb-16 16:16:53

I am so jealous of all these retirees that can do whatever they like. because of some bad investments and some dishonest people around us, it will be years before we can retire. I am 66 now and tired.

Juggernaut Wed 10-Feb-16 16:40:13

Wildrose,
Whats the best thing about being retired! All of it!
Not having to set the alarm clock, 5-30 for DH, 6-00 for me!
No defrosting the car on icy mornings!
Having time to do whatever you want!
Going out during the week, not always at weekends when it's busy!
After working since I was 16, firstly a Saturday and school hols job, then part time all through Uni, and full time for the next 35 years, I've earned the right to do exactly as I please now!
We've put enough effort into working, now we get to live the life we want!
We have our first grandchild due in August, and as we live about 6 minutes walk from DS and DDiL, will probably have our free time taken up with baby-minding......and I can't wait!

claireseptember Wed 10-Feb-16 16:46:35

A little jealousy here too I must admit. I have retired, although still do some part time hours for my former employers, but my husband died a few years ago and I feel so sad for him that he never got to retire and wind down from his stressful job and sad for me that I will never experience the relaxed companionable life of a retired couple.

Luckygirl Wed 10-Feb-16 17:25:48

Patricia494 - commiserations - I do hope that you will be able to retire soon. I also feel very sorry for those who had planned their future round the state pension and are watching their retirement date float away.

Mind you, today has not been restful - I have had to make the same long circular journey 3 times to sort out my OH's drugs and to pick up and return DGD who has been with us all day - and she is not restful! But we love her!

milkflake Wed 10-Feb-16 18:01:08

Hello Wildrose, we live the life you are describing and love it smile No alarm clocks , no clock watching, very little stress, its a very good life.
We don't have a lot of money but enough to do what we want.
As for folk who keep asking what your plans are, well tell them you don't need plans, if you want to go away tomorrow, you can, no checking the holiday list at work or asking for time off, just go ! smile

grannyqueenie Wed 10-Feb-16 18:04:37

It's a hard call Claire when what you'd hoped for doesn't turn out as you'd expected and for you too Patricia for different reasons.
flowers for everyone experiencing sadness or disappointment whatever the reason

trisher Wed 10-Feb-16 18:16:02

wildrose retirement is about doing what you want when you want to. I am always amazed by the friends I meet who tell me they have the washing on the line by 8am and are down the shops for 9! I'm usually just coming to. Still if that's how they want to live...I'm with you lose the watch, enjoy what you do and do the things you really want to. Enjoy your new GC I think being laid back and having an easy life style means we bring a special relaxed attitude to our DGCs that they really appreciate.

morethan2 Wed 10-Feb-16 19:08:17

I watch posts about retirement with great interest. I'm still dithering. I get my state pension in 24 days and 14 hours 7 minutes and 18 seconds. (who's counting ?) It's the thought that I might turn into a slob or regret it that stops me. Also I keep hoping my once fabulous job, now heart attack stressful job will suddenly improve. I thought about doing some voluntary work.My sister says I've spent my life doing useful things for others and I should spend some time doing things for myself. I think she's right. Your type of retirement sounds great.

Bez1989 Wed 10-Feb-16 20:22:31

I took early retirement at 55 and did intend to try to work for CAB but my body took quite a while to recover from work related
stress. I did feel quilty for a while, quite illogically of course as Id worked all
my life ! The answer for me was an 8 week year old puppy and he changed my life completely. My husband and I now enjoy the retirement that we both deserve because weve earned it by working for it for many years. YAY.

claireseptember Wed 10-Feb-16 21:37:29

Thanks granniequeenie. Xx

Matella Wed 10-Feb-16 23:02:45

I understand the dilemma's facing people about whether they will be able to fill their time etc in retirement. Years ago people felt they had earned their retirement. Why don't we? When you see job descriptions stipulaling "must be able to work under stress" I think

Matella Wed 10-Feb-16 23:12:52

oops sorry!
I think we have the answer.
So - Enjoy it your own way. Some never get freedom to do their own thing because responsibility does not allow it, even in retirement. You never know what lies ahead so grab this with both hands and enjoy it! grin

TwiceAsNice Thu 11-Feb-16 07:19:58

I am retiring in July and can't wait! I still work full time at two stressful jobs and will work on a part time job for two days a fortnight from September as financially I will need to supplement my two small pensions as I am divorced and have to support myself. However I am relocating literally yards away from my daughters and will be able to see my granddaughters and them every day if I wish and am so excited about this. Do enjoy whatever you do I certainly am going to, I am counting down the weeks left in my diary!

wildrose Thu 11-Feb-16 07:26:00

Patricia and Claire your posts gave me more to think about and I realise that I am lucky to be in this position. Yes I worked hard for it but, as you have shown, life can sometimes take an unexpected turn. Sending hugs to you both this morning. And thanks to the latest posters - I have been trying to picture everyone in my mind smile

Rose

narrowboatnan Thu 11-Feb-16 09:08:59

I love this retirement malarkey. Your life echoes my own, Rose - apart from the fact that we downsized big time, from a five bed roomed house (that now seems absolutely huge!) to a 57' x 7' narrow boat. We wake naturally, have an afternoon nap most days, spend time together and have some time apart. We work very much as a team with handling the boat when we are on the move as well. Neither of us wears a watch and don't always stick to conventional meal times, often having lunch at three in the afternoon. We do bicker sometimes, it wouldn't be natural if we didn't and I have threatened to shove him overboard wearing concrete slippers from time to time. But we love our life, our general health has improved, we walk and cycle a lot more so our fitness levels have improved too. All the stress of running a care home has gone so we are far more relaxed than we were. Don't feel guilty about being relaxed and enjoying life. You just carry on as you are now.

jennyg Thu 11-Feb-16 11:16:22

when I retired at age of 65, I also had vague feelings of guilt which I put down to what has been called the 'protestant wok ethic' i.e.. you should be doing something more useful/ productive, than just enjoying life.
believe me, it doesn't last very long....there's too much to enjoy !

EllenT Thu 11-Feb-16 11:41:06

Wildrose, I too was beset by folk asking about my 'plans' when I first retired from a demanding job that was no longer rewarding in any sense but the financial. Now it's six months in for me and am thoroughly enjoying myself doing 'stuff' but at my own pace. There's enough time to read the paper properly, to cook a decent meal and try new ideas, to catch up with old friends, to walk on the beach, to travel to see DCs and DGs, to (just now) watch the sleet outside, and even some gentle language learning. There's some volunteering in prospect, but I'll keep it limited to what fits in easily. DH is still toiling away though, which is the only thing that gives me a pang of guilt.

Michelle Thu 11-Feb-16 15:04:06

Wilma says "The mindset that goes with working life is totally different".
For me it s more than mindset, it is about my identity . I have worked all my life from 15 till now ( 71 ) . I see myself as a woman who works , earns money , is productive etc . Now , there is less work around , I have days without work . Believe me , I enjoy myself . I don't find the time drags , and I have lots of activities . I do Art classes, I write stories , I make and mend clothes, I cook , and play delightfully with my grandchild . All good. What I can't shift is this the mourning for the loss of that other identity . I liked working , I liked the stimulation and the activity . I liked keeping up my appearance , and being somewhere . So.... if anyone else has bee through the same dilemma , I would love to hear from you . Must sign off, to get my walk in before the sunshine disappears !

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 11-Feb-16 16:24:40

This is a very interesting thread and Michelle your post struck a cord with me.

Actually when I had to stop going out to work (with the full support of my DH), I fought with myself for several years about my 'new' identity. I found it very hard to cope with the fact I no longer earned a good salary, drove a lovely company car of my choice, flew all over Europe for work, and had lost the status of a respected manager in a male dominated industry.

Suddenly I had none of that and not working didn't bring the sense of relief I expected. What made things worse was for the first time in our marriage, my DH brought in more money than me and I didn't feel an equal partner any more. I didn't have my health either and I couldn't play the role of a lady who lunches because we didn't have the money.

Quite honestly until I saw a counsellor last year (one of several in the last 15 years), I didn't realise a lot of my mental health problems were self inflicted because I couldn't see the truth about my situation. I found out that my feelings were about not feeling good enough about myself, and that my thoughts about what other people thought of me were not borne out when we examined them. For someone who thought of themselves as self aware, it was a bombshell for me and very upsetting. I thought low self esteem was something other people had, not me.

I am learning to be kinder to myself and not have to feel worthy in the eyes of others to be happy. It's not easy, but I suspect what I've said will ring bells with other posters on this thread.

grannyqueenie Thu 11-Feb-16 17:21:02

Michelle and Wilma I can identify with both your comments. Relocating and retirement have been positive for me and bearing in mind others posts I know I'm blessed to have good health and my lovely old man to enjoy it with. BUT that's said, 7 years on and with the benefit of hindsight. It made me realise how much my own sense of purpose and self worth had been linked to what I did rather than who I am....it wasn't a comfortable realisation for someone who finds doing so much easier than being. I felt rather invisible for a while, like a vital and integral bit of me was simply disappearing and I didn't like it one bit - in fact it was scary.
In the run up to retirement I had been concerned for my husband, anticipating he would struggle but in fact he walked away from his old life with barely a backward glance! Lacking in self awareness, me? Hmm pretty ironic, considering much of my working life was supporting folk dealing with loss of various sorts. We don't always know ourselves as well as we think we do!

chrissyh Thu 11-Feb-16 19:05:43

'but I can't shake off a vague feeling of guilt!' What have you to feel guilty about your life sounds wonderful. You seem to have a good mixture of things you do. My DH and I have both been retired for 8 years and spend our time much as you do plus we are lucky enough to be able to have a few holidays/weekend breaks a year. Luckily we live near our DGC and have the pleasure looking after them 1 day a week. Hopefully, you have this pleasure to come, which you wouldn't do if you weren't retired. As somebody once said - 'a day doing nothing isn't wasted if you enjoy it'. Enjoy.

WilmaKnickersfit Thu 11-Feb-16 19:59:00

granniequeenie ironically I used to run stress management and pre-retirement courses in a different job, so I agree we don't always know ourselves as well as we think we do. wink It might be a generalisation, but I don't think men think about things like this as much as women. They can be much better at accepting things at face value.

chrissyh I don't know who said that, but I do like it. smile

GranJan60 Thu 11-Feb-16 20:26:32

Wilma and others - I'm glad to read your posts. Was suddenly and unexpectedly made redundant age 61 in July from responsible but stressful job as Customer Service Manager for IVF treatments. As no pension for 5 yrs expected to get another job fairly easily given qualifications and shocked that no-one is interested and looks like retirement by default. I haven't got my head around this yet and feel devalued and "invisible". You are right about the loss of identity as I feel people treat me as an old lady now and I hate having to rely on DH for handouts. Interested to hear about the Counselling/Lifecoach - perhaps that's what I need. I do have 3 GC-2 nearby and DH retires end of year but guilt reigns at present.