No Phoenix I'm happy to be judgmental when I thought they wrote crap, and certainly I'm not patronising as I posted some poetry written in a different vein so that as you mentioned you could decide for yourself though I didn't have you in mind rather the poster who felt the one about schoolboys having unwelcome erections was "pervy". An awful lot of the Mersey Beat poets get stuff ending up in comic and curious verse and I think they deserve better. The last time brian Patten was in Durham for a reading,Roger McGough's son was an undergraduate here and they all turned up to cheer him on.
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