So what are you going to do in the evenings while the football is on>

I once asked someone who knew a lot about football who was the best player at the time and was surprised when she said Thierry Henry. I did get to see him at St James Park once but it wasn't a very good game. I'm asking the guys on my racing forum which players to watch out for so that when I'm watching each match I know at least one player. I wish I understood the rules better; having siad that the friend that I asked about best player said I probably enjoy it more not knowing the rules. At least I get a feel for a match and know if I'm watching something special. Trouble is, like a lot of sport you have to watch a lot of rubbish to see the good bits, but even Wimbledon is like that, the best games often being earlier on in the tournament and quite unexpected. The ITV coverage of the Australia game wasn't too bad last night although the pundits in the studio didn't speak very good English [and that included the English ones ].

No problem Silverfish, I suppose to a non-fan of football it would seem sad but they must see something in it! I enjoy the World Cup but I wouldn't take to wearing an England kit (if I didn't live here, I might be tempted to fly the England flag though)

Why would you not fly the England flag where you live, you are still British, Holly or am I showing my ignorance- only got a 'C' in O level geography.

There's nothing to stop me from flying the St George's cross flag but part of me would feel it is disrespectful to the Manx to fly another flag on their soil (so to speak).

All this talk of the Isle of Man prompted me to look for a boy I knew who was in our gang after school, when the two grammars used to meet up despite the teachers enforcing different departure times. He was incredibly good-looking, although not my type, too short, but he was a good friend and I missed him when his family moved away. So I just googled him and found him! No longer a Donny Osmond-alike, in fact I would never have recognised him. His family of five brothers moved away when he was 16 for a new farm and left many a Tun Wells girl's heart broken!

www.hiddensciencemap.org/profile/kim-holland

It's amazing what you can find on google. I just like knowing that people are still alive.

I don't care what men wear- but I do care about the hipocrisy to go on and complain about the huge pay checks, massive corruption- the extreme poverty of Brasil and the expulsion and destruction of their communities to make space for stadiums and the massive sums of money spent on stadiums- some of which will be used a few times and never again....

and then buy the WCup goods, kits, etc- go there and watch the games on TV.

All this corruption will never stop if we aid and abet. I wish we would all switch off our TVs- low ratings will soon afffect sponsors and get the message across.

We don't seem to have anything like as many car/garden/window flags round here this time. They were everywhere last time. Perhaps everyone feels it's best to ease off with the pressure. (Not that it's worked so far )

Silerfish they've probably got World Cup merchandise to shift.

(men in local supermarket, that is)

We could turn off our tvs etc. granjura (I won't be watching any matches anyway), but you'll never persuade the hard-core footie fans to do the same - our gesture would mean nothing to the sponsors.

According to the "AreYou" thread we are all having orgasmic unprotected sex and so have no time for football.

Well, I'm missing out there. When the footie's on OH only notices me if I walk in front of the screen.

Sadly you are right Ana - the more's the pity

West Wing series one is really good
I just said to DH "i;ve only seen one car with an England flag" and he said "There;s a lot more in England! When I went to mum's I wondered what they were all for til I remembered"
So folks, if you want to escape, we are having fantastic sunny weather up here on Anglesey.

There was a lovely programme on BBC2 tonight about an Australian zoo keeper who was hand-raising tiger cubs in his own home, having played midwife to their mother. To be continued tomorrow. It's a good antidote to football. BBC 2 and 4 are football free zones as is Channel 4.