Migrants again.

Let’s just leave it to the new PM and his govt.

I read a positive about this huge boat, apparently the boats are getting much harder to source in France due to the vigilance of the French.

So these awful traffickers are loading more and more people into the boats they can source.

I think the PM s actually at an emergency cobra meeting today re our own wildfires.

It seems like nothing is happening re the “boats”, but I’m pretty sure much more is going on behind the scenes than we are told.

Whilst I dearly want these boats to stop and the traffickers caught and severely penalised, my concern is about the women and children taking these terrible risks, as well as the men.

They are all humans and are only doing what perhaps many of us would do if we were ever unlucky enough to be in their situation.

I don’t care if these people are men, women or children, actually you, personally, do not know all of their personal circumstances, none of us do, I choose not to judge.

I don’t think it’s for us to judge what our PM prioritises, it’s his job to make these decisions, not ours.

Lobby your MP, if you’re so convinced he’s on the wrong path.

I’ll wait and give him a chance.

If AB is going to be treated in the same appalling way as Starmer in the media and inside Parliament, we’ll end up with multiple PMs again and that helps absolutely no-one.

It is getting worse, I cried when I saw the picture of the baby being held by the arm to be put on the craft.
No life jacket, no protection from the elements, no love or care shown.
You cannot legally transport a baby in a car in France or England without approved restraint yet the powers that be turn a blind eye where these boats are concerned.

The whole situation causes me so much grief, I have concern for the immigrants but I also have huge concern for the UK, when will it stop, how can we keep paying, the knock on effect the NHS, benefits, the long term as these people will need pensions/benefits/and care in their old age.

Finally and most importantly what if it is true we are bringing in an army?

Start from source.
Where and who produced this giant dinghy?
Who transported it to the coast ? Who supplies all the life vests ? ....and surely somebody notices hundreds of people walking the streets ?

According to reputable French newspapers, and I'm translating this word for word:

Les passeurs se fournissent en grands bateaux pneumatiques de fabrication chinoise importés via la Turquie.
made in China, imported via Turkey

L'Allemagne sert souvent de plateforme logistique centrale pour stocker et acheminer ce matériel nautique vers les côtes.
often stockpiled in Germany and then sent on their way to the coast

Life vests are available, shelf on shelf in Decathlon stores. I've read they have to be purchased by the passengers, that is why some do have them, some don't have them.

Sago , I am puzzled by your last sentence about bringing in an army. I haven't heard anything about this, but then perhaps my news is from real sources.Please can you tell us the what, where and why ?
Cossy , a very good post, right to the point. Thank you.

Sago

It is getting worse, I cried when I saw the picture of the baby being held by the arm to be put on the craft.
No life jacket, no protection from the elements, no love or care shown.
You cannot legally transport a baby in a car in France or England without approved restraint yet the powers that be turn a blind eye where these boats are concerned.

The whole situation causes me so much grief, I have concern for the immigrants but I also have huge concern for the UK, when will it stop, how can we keep paying, the knock on effect the NHS, benefits, the long term as these people will need pensions/benefits/and care in their old age.

Finally and most importantly what if it is true we are bringing in an army?

Couldn’t agree more. That poor little baby. This needs to stop and this government needs to get a grip.

westendgirl

Sago , I am puzzled by your last sentence about bringing in an army. I haven't heard anything about this, but then perhaps my news is from real sources.Please can you tell us the what, where and why ?
Cossy , a very good post, right to the point. Thank you.

Many of the posts on social media are mentioning the fact that most of the occupants of the ‘small boats’ are young men, often referred to as ‘fighting age’ men. This suits Reform & co, as people may infer that these young men may be coming here to fight the patriotic Christian British!

Cossy well said you speak my language. These people are human beings!

I think the uk has blood on it's hands every time a life is lost in the crossings.

Of course they're human beings and no one wants anyone to lose their life in a dangerous crossing, particularly not that little baby being dangled by his arm who was pictured yesterday.

Bear in mind that the women who have been raped, accosted, degraded and in one case murdered by asylum seekers are also human beings. These not unknown happenings need to be acknowledged and planning as to where these young men are placed needs to be given more consideration as to how communities are going to cope. I can't imagine what it must be like to live in a village of 400 people and then have over 1,000 young men with little to do just dumped there. It's not just about colour of skin, ethnicity or religion. Small communities can and have also be besieged by traveller communities who roll up and park themselves in community playgrounds, cutting through locks, paving over fields without planning permission and then leaving large amounts of debris that can include both dog and human faeces. Apologies for conflating two issues but most people just want to live peaceably alongside their neighbours, know their children are safe, without the worry of knowing that they're being put in a potentially dangerous situation.

It is NOT getting worse, these crossings are very much down on previous years. But, of course, facts are not much use with a lot of people.

Anyone attending any hospital or medical centre must be grateful for so many of this so-called army of foreigners, without them we would be in much problems.

Young men, are usually the main and first asylum seekers, often being funded by a an area or village. Hoping that if they make it to get to an appropriate safe country, they can eventually help to fund better conditions for their people back home.

Britain has always been made up by immigrants for at least two thousand years. Refugees here are still less (proportion of population), than in most other European countries.

I am just so very, very grateful that neither I nor any member of my family have to take this sort of journey and dire risk in order to be able to live.

Of course, my ancestors did, escaping from the czar in the latter part of the 19th century, and also from Nazis in mid 20th century. They also experienced this sort of hostility, but most managed to get on with their very productive lives here.

"Anyone attending any hospital or medical centre must be grateful for so many of this so-called army of foreigners, without them we would be in much problems."

The staff working in our hospitals and NHS came in by legal routes and often trained at universities here too then stayed.
They did not arrive in small boats across the Channel.

It is wrong to conflate the two.

MissAdventure

I think the uk has blood on it's hands every time a life is lost in the crossings.

Also France.

No the UK does not have blood on its hands and that is quite a shocking thing to say. Our RNLI , RN put their own lives at risk to rescue people in our waters.

Those who have blood on their hands are people smugglers and those manufacturing and selling boats, lifejackets etc to desperate people.

Sago

MissAdventure

I think the uk has blood on it's hands every time a life is lost in the crossings.

Also France.

I think the UK has blood on its hands every time one of our own is raped, murdered, assaulted by these unvetted savage men in our midst.

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Silvershadow

Sago

MissAdventure

I think the uk has blood on it's hands every time a life is lost in the crossings.

Also France.

I think the UK has blood on its hands every time one of our own is raped, murdered, assaulted by these unvetted savage men in our midst.

And what about all the ‘vetted’ men who proclaim themselves to have the interests of ‘our own’ women and children at heart?

What we are all missing is these migrants flee their country for whatever reason and cross many countries to get to the UK.
They can settle in a safer country nearer home but choose this arduous journey and travel across Europe to reach Northern France and they alone chose to put themselves and or their family in a dangerous boat.
No one has blood on their hands , the Migrants chose this way themselves.
I have much sympathy with the babies being forced to do this but not the adults who know better.

JenniRen

"Anyone attending any hospital or medical centre must be grateful for so many of this so-called army of foreigners, without them we would be in much problems."

The staff working in our hospitals and NHS came in by legal routes and often trained at universities here too then stayed.
They did not arrive in small boats across the Channel.

It is wrong to conflate the two.

In one.
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No wonder ‘Border Farce’ is its nickname.
Bigger boats now.

I posted this earlier.

Summer isn’t over by a long chalk.

Daddima

Silvershadow

Sago

MissAdventure

I think the uk has blood on it's hands every time a life is lost in the crossings.

Also France.

I think the UK has blood on its hands every time one of our own is raped, murdered, assaulted by these unvetted savage men in our midst.

And what about all the ‘vetted’ men who proclaim themselves to have the interests of ‘our own’ women and children at heart?

That's a red herring.