More rude behaviour on public transport 😡

Correction - a kindly soul offered…..

What you describe is appalling and can scarcely be believed. Is it just the frenetic activity of the Tube do you think? It makes me appreciate the behaviour on our local bus(we only have one) where everyone goes out of their way to help each other and the elderly will get up immediately from the priority seat if they see someone more disabled than themselves getting on. People squash up if they see yet another mum getting on with a pushchair and the drivers have infinite patience putting the step up and down. Seats are readily offered even if you don’t really want one and strangers chat with one another. I love the bus .

That is so ignorant, I remember years ago, men would rise and give a woman their seat, whether she was pregnant or not,
I know not everyone is like this man ,there are some gentlemen still around

pably15

That is so ignorant, I remember years ago, men would rise and give a woman their seat, whether she was pregnant or not,
I know not everyone is like this man ,there are some gentlemen still around

Indeed including the man who got up to give the woman his seat.

It takes some gall to do what he did - but then to pretend to be sleeping with stunned people glaringly watching you - makes me wonder if he's a tad unstable?

This is not normal behaviour - even inconsiderate and self-absorbed men would normally be embarrassed enough to relinquish the seat, however unceremoniously.

Unbelievably rude. Unhinged possibly

Dickens

It takes some gall to do what he did - but then to pretend to be sleeping with stunned people glaringly watching you - makes me wonder if he's a tad unstable?

This is not normal behaviour - even inconsiderate and self-absorbed men would normally be embarrassed enough to relinquish the seat, however unceremoniously.

Am wondering if is some kind of trend initiated by TikTok or perhaps a more toxic site online where young men do horrible anti social things then report back to their followers, afterall the young man who recently prevented an elderly woman from climbing the stairs safely did film it, which makes me think there must be an audience.
And it seems to be on the tube.
I just think that some people will literally do anything for ‘likes’ online.

The man who obstructed the elderly lady was savaged, and rightly so on X. I don't know about TikTok. There was some horrible individual called Mizzy a while ago who persistently put nasty things he did to older people on TikTok. After umpeen warnings he eventually got a custodial sentence.

I reckon this kind of thing is tied in with the "woman hating" individuals on social media.

People like the Tate brothers and others who promote misogyny could be the cause of this disgraceful behaviour.
Consideration for others seems to be a thing of the past for some people.

Fallingstar

Dickens

It takes some gall to do what he did - but then to pretend to be sleeping with stunned people glaringly watching you - makes me wonder if he's a tad unstable?

This is not normal behaviour - even inconsiderate and self-absorbed men would normally be embarrassed enough to relinquish the seat, however unceremoniously.

Am wondering if is some kind of trend initiated by TikTok or perhaps a more toxic site online where young men do horrible anti social things then report back to their followers, afterall the young man who recently prevented an elderly woman from climbing the stairs safely did film it, which makes me think there must be an audience.
And it seems to be on the tube.
I just think that some people will literally do anything for ‘likes’ online.

Hmm, I didn't think of that Fallingstar - you could be right.

It was so deliberate.

There are so many content-creators and others competing for attention that it's inevitable their material will become ever more off the scale and pernicious.

<<< sigh >>>

Ah, yes.
That's who I was thinking of, but couldn't remember his name - Andrew Tate

MissAdventure

I reckon this kind of thing is tied in with the "woman hating" individuals on social media.

That's my thinking, too.

There's an article in one of the newspapers, can't remember which, about a man - I think in India - who drove around with a pair of scissors stabbing women at random - because as he admitted, he hated them.

The news item was re-produced on Facebook, and - the very first comment I read was from a man who said that this was because of feminism. Other men were saying things like, 'what do you expect when women are misandrist and hate men'.

Then you have toxic individuals like Andrew Tate whose main premise is that 'women have ruined society'.

There are some brave men sticking up for women - and doing it in a way that belittles the misogyny and those men spouting it - and of course they attract the attention of the rest of the 'manosphere' and get called things like "simp", "cuck", and "beta-male" - and worse.

I find it quite alarming.

I use a rollator and was on the pavement walking to the local shops yesterday. The pavement is wide enough for two approaching without anybody moving. Five teenagers, in uniform walked towards me and refused to give way, although I was on my own. I wasn't moving onto the busy road to give way to them so I stopped for a few seconds and they did the moving. Manners, decency and common sense are sadly lacking nowadays.

Charleygirl5

I use a rollator and was on the pavement walking to the local shops yesterday. The pavement is wide enough for two approaching without anybody moving. Five teenagers, in uniform walked towards me and refused to give way, although I was on my own. I wasn't moving onto the busy road to give way to them so I stopped for a few seconds and they did the moving. Manners, decency and common sense are sadly lacking nowadays.

Sorry that happened to you Charleygirl15 , I imagine it must have shaken you a bit. 💐

I’ve recently had a hip replacement (3 weeks ago today) so although I’m trying to go out walking every day, I still need elbow crutches. Last week because I was going stir crazy being confined to my home village, my husband and daughter drove me to a local tourist attraction where there are flat, wide paths. We parked in the car park and walked to the visitor centre / cafe. Everyone was lovely, giving me plenty of room, until we came across one woman coming the other way who stopped right in front of me and refused to move. I asked her if she could move to the side of the wide path and her response was “not all disabilities are visible”. Eventually after explaining to her that I actually had a very visible disability as I was a cripple, she squeezed to the side and walked past laughing to herself. Very odd and it knocked my confidence for going out and about

I'm in my 70s and did a 3 hour train journey on two trains with toddler GC. A young man offered to get the buggy on the train for me. As I was waiting to get off a young man offered to help me off, he worked for the train company but wasn't working at the time. He asked what train I was getting and took buggy and bag to the train, put them on the train and showed me to my seat. Getting off two young men helped,one took the buggy and one the bag. I find young men very helpful if I'm travelling with one of the GC or if I have a heavy case.

GemmaMack

I’ve recently had a hip replacement (3 weeks ago today) so although I’m trying to go out walking every day, I still need elbow crutches. Last week because I was going stir crazy being confined to my home village, my husband and daughter drove me to a local tourist attraction where there are flat, wide paths. We parked in the car park and walked to the visitor centre / cafe. Everyone was lovely, giving me plenty of room, until we came across one woman coming the other way who stopped right in front of me and refused to move. I asked her if she could move to the side of the wide path and her response was “not all disabilities are visible”. Eventually after explaining to her that I actually had a very visible disability as I was a cripple, she squeezed to the side and walked past laughing to herself. Very odd and it knocked my confidence for going out and about

I'm sad to say my hierarchy of helpful is young men, older men, older women. Young women never seem to offer to help and are often pushy.

Try not to let her put you off getting out and about. Good luck with the recovery.

I also use a rollator and have to concentrate really hard on looking out for people walking towards me 'eyes down' on their flipping mobile phones

When a group, or even just 2, approach me on the narrow pavement I realise I am invisible so stop still and wait until they see me and we pass. Much as you described Charleygirl

Thank you ☺️

Thank you, theworriedwell 😊

Sorry to hear that Charleygirl5

When I went to school in Durham City, rules were we were to walk in single file on certain streets, especially Silver Street which was one-way traffic and a very narrow footpath. Our uniform was very distinctive - brown and gold, so we were easily identifiable and members of the public would report to the school if they’d been jostled or somehow inconvenienced by any of us! I suppose they’d be called busy bodies these days?

DD2 is a wheelchair user and we often have to stop when approached by someone striding towards us, totally engrossed in their phone.

There are good, kind people out there, myself and my DH have been helped on numerous occasions on trains and buses.
Am afraid the tube is a different thing altogether, we don’t use it now.