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In summary a kindly could offered a heavily pregnant woman his seat on the tube but before she could sit a man muscled in and sat down. It was explained to him that the seat had been intended for the woman but he ignored this.
First the young man who blocked the handrail for an eighty year old woman to get up the steps and filmed it. And now this!!
Of course the man could have had an invisible disability but he deliberately barged in front of the woman and took the seat despite the situation being explained to him.
Have stopped using the tube in London with my DH who is disabled since suffering a stroke, is exhausting to keep explaining to people why he needs a priority seat. Thankfully he gets AA now so we use uber.
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I have to add that yes people have on occasion given up a seat for my DH on the tube but he is so disabled now that on the occasions I have had to push for a priority seat it has been dangerous for him to stand in the mean time. So have given up on that mode of transport for that reason. Am not implying that all tube users are uncaring but when it is crowded and people are fixing or wearing headphones/scrolling on their phones, is very difficult.
Buses and trains are easier and of course we just uber some of the time. Have to. He canāt drive and I donāt.
I am pretty much always offered a seat on the London Underground.
When my friend and I went to Prague young people kept standing up for us on the buses and trains . We didnāt know whether to be insulted as we werenāt even 60 at the time š. It was lovely though .
Itās so sad isnāt it. It is a generalisation but overall I think we now live in an ignorant and rude society. People are out for themselves and donāt consider others in the way they used to years ago. I frequently see it at the shops, on transport, on the road, in restaurantsā¦..We have become a self centred, ego driven society imo, with a āme firstā attitude. Sadly people seem to think that this is the only way to find happiness or contentment. I think we need to start to bring up our children differently so that things can change for the future.
I am often offered a seat on the tube so there are some nice people around.
Things that annoy me on buses are people who don't move over to the window to let others sit down and people not using headphones.
If only there had been 2 strapping strong men on the Tube to lift that man out of the seat to allow the pregnant woman to sit down. I don't think he would have put up a fight.
Gran22boys
I boarded a packed train at the weekend and was fortunate enough to be offered a seat by a kind young man. I accepted and told him how grateful I was. This also happened to me recently on the tube and I will mention that neither man was English. Perhaps other cultures have more respect for older people.
I dont think it is right to generalise. I have been offered seats and been helped by people from a range of cultures. I have also observed rudeness and selfishness on public transport by people from a range of cultures
I boarded a packed train at the weekend and was fortunate enough to be offered a seat by a kind young man. I accepted and told him how grateful I was. This also happened to me recently on the tube and I will mention that neither man was English. Perhaps other cultures have more respect for older people.
On the rare occasions that my friend and I go to London we now just get the train to Waterloo and take a black cab from there. The cab drivers are always helpful and seem to enjoy having a pair of elderly nutters on board.
When I use public transport in Paris and have to stand I look round at all the passengers and think I am the eldest one aboard.
However, once I was on an early rush hour train to the airport, everyone crushed together, and it was an Italian man, who insisted I move three seats up the aisle. to where he was so that he could give me his seat.
Fallingstar
There are good, kind people out there, myself and my DH have been helped on numerous occasions on trains and buses.
Am afraid the tube is a different thing altogether, we donāt use it now.
I have been offered seats regularly on the tube
Old people can be rude too. Today I was on a bus and a woman, aged around 70, sat on an aisle seat, with her bag on the window seat. She also had her shopping trolley tucked into the two seats in front of her, so she was taking up four seats. Someone else got on and moved the trolley in order to sit down. The trolley owner complained!
There are good, kind people out there, myself and my DH have been helped on numerous occasions on trains and buses.
Am afraid the tube is a different thing altogether, we donāt use it now.
Sorry to hear that Charleygirl5
When I went to school in Durham City, rules were we were to walk in single file on certain streets, especially Silver Street which was one-way traffic and a very narrow footpath. Our uniform was very distinctive - brown and gold, so we were easily identifiable and members of the public would report to the school if theyād been jostled or somehow inconvenienced by any of us! I suppose theyād be called busy bodies these days?
DD2 is a wheelchair user and we often have to stop when approached by someone striding towards us, totally engrossed in their phone.
Thank you, theworriedwell š
Thank you āŗļø
When a group, or even just 2, approach me on the narrow pavement I realise I am invisible so stop still and wait until they see me and we pass. Much as you described Charleygirl
I also use a rollator and have to concentrate really hard on looking out for people walking towards me 'eyes down' on their flipping mobile phones
GemmaMack
Iāve recently had a hip replacement (3 weeks ago today) so although Iām trying to go out walking every day, I still need elbow crutches. Last week because I was going stir crazy being confined to my home village, my husband and daughter drove me to a local tourist attraction where there are flat, wide paths. We parked in the car park and walked to the visitor centre / cafe. Everyone was lovely, giving me plenty of room, until we came across one woman coming the other way who stopped right in front of me and refused to move. I asked her if she could move to the side of the wide path and her response was ānot all disabilities are visibleā. Eventually after explaining to her that I actually had a very visible disability as I was a cripple, she squeezed to the side and walked past laughing to herself. Very odd and it knocked my confidence for going out and about
I'm sad to say my hierarchy of helpful is young men, older men, older women. Young women never seem to offer to help and are often pushy.
Try not to let her put you off getting out and about. Good luck with the recovery.
I'm in my 70s and did a 3 hour train journey on two trains with toddler GC. A young man offered to get the buggy on the train for me. As I was waiting to get off a young man offered to help me off, he worked for the train company but wasn't working at the time. He asked what train I was getting and took buggy and bag to the train, put them on the train and showed me to my seat. Getting off two young men helped,one took the buggy and one the bag. I find young men very helpful if I'm travelling with one of the GC or if I have a heavy case.
Iāve recently had a hip replacement (3 weeks ago today) so although Iām trying to go out walking every day, I still need elbow crutches. Last week because I was going stir crazy being confined to my home village, my husband and daughter drove me to a local tourist attraction where there are flat, wide paths. We parked in the car park and walked to the visitor centre / cafe. Everyone was lovely, giving me plenty of room, until we came across one woman coming the other way who stopped right in front of me and refused to move. I asked her if she could move to the side of the wide path and her response was ānot all disabilities are visibleā. Eventually after explaining to her that I actually had a very visible disability as I was a cripple, she squeezed to the side and walked past laughing to herself. Very odd and it knocked my confidence for going out and about
Charleygirl5
I use a rollator and was on the pavement walking to the local shops yesterday. The pavement is wide enough for two approaching without anybody moving. Five teenagers, in uniform walked towards me and refused to give way, although I was on my own. I wasn't moving onto the busy road to give way to them so I stopped for a few seconds and they did the moving. Manners, decency and common sense are sadly lacking nowadays.
Sorry that happened to you Charleygirl15 , I imagine it must have shaken you a bit. š
I use a rollator and was on the pavement walking to the local shops yesterday. The pavement is wide enough for two approaching without anybody moving. Five teenagers, in uniform walked towards me and refused to give way, although I was on my own. I wasn't moving onto the busy road to give way to them so I stopped for a few seconds and they did the moving. Manners, decency and common sense are sadly lacking nowadays.
MissAdventure
I reckon this kind of thing is tied in with the "woman hating" individuals on social media.
That's my thinking, too.
There's an article in one of the newspapers, can't remember which, about a man - I think in India - who drove around with a pair of scissors stabbing women at random - because as he admitted, he hated them.
The news item was re-produced on Facebook, and - the very first comment I read was from a man who said that this was because of feminism. Other men were saying things like, 'what do you expect when women are misandrist and hate men'.
Then you have toxic individuals like Andrew Tate whose main premise is that 'women have ruined society'.
There are some brave men sticking up for women - and doing it in a way that belittles the misogyny and those men spouting it - and of course they attract the attention of the rest of the 'manosphere' and get called things like "simp", "cuck", and "beta-male" - and worse.
I find it quite alarming.
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