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Diana, 7 days and the walk behind the coffin

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Imperfect27 Wed 23-Aug-17 13:49:59

There is a lot about Princess Diana and the 20th anniversary in the press atm. I think it is good that her sons have been able to talk so openly - hopefully it will help them in their grieving, but I think there is a sense of being swamped by media coverage of it all now.

Came across this 'news' article today and Prince Harry's change of stance over the collective decision for him to walk behind the coffin at his mother's funeral. I do wonder if he has been advised to 'say differently':

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41017659

For the record, I find myself wanting to say to "Harry, you were right the first time - it should not have been expected of you." And I remember watching the funeral on TV (I was of an age with Princess Diana) and thinking how awful for those boys to make that walk. I wouldn't have expected it of them. It did not 'comfort' me in any way that they were there - I find that a very strange thought - I remember I just felt immense sorrow for them. They were children and it was not necessary to put them under so much media attention. I think Diana herself would have hated the idea of it!

paddyann Fri 01-Sept-17 21:07:19

just been on Mumsnet where theres a Diana threat running ..it would appear the younger generation are not impressed or enamoured of her ,In fact the vast majority think the whole Diana hysteria and worship is a big joke and I kind of agree .Oh and the general concensus is her sons are on the same path

Anniebach Fri 01-Sept-17 21:22:49

Gilly, what really troubles me about the whole sorry mess is there is no proof of when Charles became involved with Camilla, it's all Diana's word. I am surprised no newspaper has ever photographed him, wearing those those cuff links , no one was present when he said all she claims he said. I really believe she entered an arranged marriage, she grew up on the sandringham estate, holidayed in Balmoral, her sister dated Charles , her other sister was married to the queens private secretary, she was in the royal circle, yet is accepted as an innocent and all based in her allegations . Can anyone tell me when in all those years she ever admitted to one fault.

gillybob Fri 01-Sept-17 21:45:15

Well there are the recorded phone calls Anniebach . TBH I don't give a fig about any of them and like others have said would prefer a president that we could at least vote for unlike this over privileged, workshy family who consider themselves to be so far above us " peasants"'.

Anniebach Fri 01-Sept-17 21:52:31

Yes but there was the phone call between her and Gilby when she was holidaying at balmoral.

I am not a royalist but I really believe Charles is judged unfairly , all on her word.

nigglynellie Fri 01-Sept-17 22:13:09

I think Charles was dating Camilla years before his marriage, but shilly Shallied about marriage, panicked the Palace as Camilla had 'baggage', went off to sea, came back to find she'd married Andrew P-B, and that should have been that!! Clearly they started seeing each other again at some point. Andrew P-B also started an affair with a lady he has subsequently married. This is only what I've read, not first hand knowledge!
Bit spooky that Camilla's 3? 4? g grandmother Mrs Keppel was the final mistress of Edward V11th Charles 4 times g grandfather! What goes round comes round!!!

Anniebach Fri 01-Sept-17 22:19:28

Yes niggly , he has never denied it, but she claimed it was going on at the start of the marriage , her book was so vindictive

Deedaa Fri 01-Sept-17 22:28:51

I've always found it slightly odd that no one ever sees Charles and Camilla as a romantic couple who were finally able to get together in spite of the establishment's efforts to keep them apart. It's surely the stuff of classic romantic fiction. Perhaps it just doesn't work with middle aged couples who like tramping round the countryside in wellies.

merlotgran Fri 01-Sept-17 22:31:22

I often liken them to John of Gaunt and Katharine Swynford.

Got there in the end grin

nigglynellie Sat 02-Sept-17 10:37:50

What a good analogy merlotgran! Lucky C&C didn't have all those children!!! That really would have sent the Palace grandees into outer orbit!! As you say D.d perhaps long term romance complete with wellies doesn't have the same ring to it! It does for me!,!

Anniebach Sat 02-Sept-17 10:57:53

I await a Diana sympathiser to give proof of her countless allegations, I find it upsetting to see anyone's reputation and life's work torn to bits becauseof allegations which have not been proved

Miep1 Sat 02-Sept-17 11:11:16

Lillie, I no longer live in France, so am not aware of current coverage of Lady Dee and her demise. It's not prime fashion show time and I suppose they need to put something on the cover - why not follow the rest of the world? I can't get PM in the wilds of Devon, anyway!

nigglynellie Sat 02-Sept-17 11:13:10

You're right annie, there was fault on all sides in that marriage, and as you say, a life's work trashed partly by your own sons must be a bitter pill to have to swallow in silence. I think however badly or otherwise Charles behaved, he has been punished enough without having to endure round two in the public eye. Lets face it whatever we do, it is a private matter, for him the whole nation rears up to bring him into yet more disrepute - enough is enough, fgs let this be an end of it!

Deedaa Sat 02-Sept-17 20:13:45

Te John of Gaunt an Katherine Swynford analogy is a good one merlot at least there won't be all those Beaufort children causing problems down the generations.

paddyann Sat 02-Sept-17 23:41:43

not a whole nation at all niggly there are millions of us who couldn't care less about C and camilla or any of the rst of them ..we are sick to death of the Diana nonsense fillinng our newsfeeds from media sources etc though and will be happy to see it all end

ginny Sun 03-Sept-17 07:36:13

I'll be glad when all the current reporting ends too. Very sad that someone so young should die and children loose their mother but the reactions of many at the time was like a mass hysteria and no many were not devestated and it didn't alter any of our lives. I shudder to think how some of the people who are still 'reeling' from the events of 20 years ago cope when they loose a person they actually know.
As for Charles and Camilla, a pity they didn't marry in the first place and I think they seem very happy now I admire Charles for keeping quiet now.
I have no particular affection for any of the 'royals' , I don't know them as people and don't count them as being any better or worse than the majority of the human race.

nigglynellie Sun 03-Sept-17 10:34:52

Let's say a proportion of the nation then. P.a!
ginny, I totally agree with your post.