Diana, 7 days and the walk behind the coffin

Let's say a proportion of the nation then. P.a!
ginny, I totally agree with your post.

I'll be glad when all the current reporting ends too. Very sad that someone so young should die and children loose their mother but the reactions of many at the time was like a mass hysteria and no many were not devestated and it didn't alter any of our lives. I shudder to think how some of the people who are still 'reeling' from the events of 20 years ago cope when they loose a person they actually know.
As for Charles and Camilla, a pity they didn't marry in the first place and I think they seem very happy now I admire Charles for keeping quiet now.
I have no particular affection for any of the 'royals' , I don't know them as people and don't count them as being any better or worse than the majority of the human race.

not a whole nation at all niggly there are millions of us who couldn't care less about C and camilla or any of the rst of them ..we are sick to death of the Diana nonsense fillinng our newsfeeds from media sources etc though and will be happy to see it all end

Te John of Gaunt an Katherine Swynford analogy is a good one merlot at least there won't be all those Beaufort children causing problems down the generations.

You're right annie, there was fault on all sides in that marriage, and as you say, a life's work trashed partly by your own sons must be a bitter pill to have to swallow in silence. I think however badly or otherwise Charles behaved, he has been punished enough without having to endure round two in the public eye. Lets face it whatever we do, it is a private matter, for him the whole nation rears up to bring him into yet more disrepute - enough is enough, fgs let this be an end of it!

Lillie, I no longer live in France, so am not aware of current coverage of Lady Dee and her demise. It's not prime fashion show time and I suppose they need to put something on the cover - why not follow the rest of the world? I can't get PM in the wilds of Devon, anyway!

I await a Diana sympathiser to give proof of her countless allegations, I find it upsetting to see anyone's reputation and life's work torn to bits becauseof allegations which have not been proved

What a good analogy merlotgran! Lucky C&C didn't have all those children!!! That really would have sent the Palace grandees into outer orbit!! As you say D.d perhaps long term romance complete with wellies doesn't have the same ring to it! It does for me!,!

I often liken them to John of Gaunt and Katharine Swynford.

Got there in the end

I've always found it slightly odd that no one ever sees Charles and Camilla as a romantic couple who were finally able to get together in spite of the establishment's efforts to keep them apart. It's surely the stuff of classic romantic fiction. Perhaps it just doesn't work with middle aged couples who like tramping round the countryside in wellies.

Yes niggly , he has never denied it, but she claimed it was going on at the start of the marriage , her book was so vindictive

I think Charles was dating Camilla years before his marriage, but shilly Shallied about marriage, panicked the Palace as Camilla had 'baggage', went off to sea, came back to find she'd married Andrew P-B, and that should have been that!! Clearly they started seeing each other again at some point. Andrew P-B also started an affair with a lady he has subsequently married. This is only what I've read, not first hand knowledge!
Bit spooky that Camilla's 3? 4? g grandmother Mrs Keppel was the final mistress of Edward V11th Charles 4 times g grandfather! What goes round comes round!!!

Yes but there was the phone call between her and Gilby when she was holidaying at balmoral.

I am not a royalist but I really believe Charles is judged unfairly , all on her word.

Well there are the recorded phone calls Anniebach . TBH I don't give a fig about any of them and like others have said would prefer a president that we could at least vote for unlike this over privileged, workshy family who consider themselves to be so far above us " peasants"'.

Gilly, what really troubles me about the whole sorry mess is there is no proof of when Charles became involved with Camilla, it's all Diana's word. I am surprised no newspaper has ever photographed him, wearing those those cuff links , no one was present when he said all she claims he said. I really believe she entered an arranged marriage, she grew up on the sandringham estate, holidayed in Balmoral, her sister dated Charles , her other sister was married to the queens private secretary, she was in the royal circle, yet is accepted as an innocent and all based in her allegations . Can anyone tell me when in all those years she ever admitted to one fault.

just been on Mumsnet where theres a Diana threat running ..it would appear the younger generation are not impressed or enamoured of her ,In fact the vast majority think the whole Diana hysteria and worship is a big joke and I kind of agree .Oh and the general concensus is her sons are on the same path

From what I have learned Diana's relationships happened after the marriage breakdown . Charles relationship with park-ya-balls was going on before the marriage, during it and after the breakdown. I can't stand any of the royals.

Have I missed one ? am counting again, oooooh yes forgot Hewitt

I make it eight, Annie

But Charles didn't go on tv to say -there were seven in the marriage

We'll have to agree to disagree on that point, I'm afraid.
Anyway, once again, whilst I'm no royalist, or a particularly zealous Diana fan, I have enjoyed watching the programmes which have been on recently. That's all.

I think it is particularly having been forced into an arranged marriage, abandoning the love of your life in the interests of duty. At least it's sincere, hopping from bed to bed breaking marriages is anything but.

Ah, I didn't realise that the immorality aspect was made better by sleeping with just one person whilst married to another..

At least it was only Camilla after that marriage, and they had been 'fond' of each other , and should have been allowed to marry, for many years. Diana did had one affair on top of another, breaking up at least one marriage! If she'd been my daughter, seeing her behave so foolishly would have deeply upset me, worried me to death, and I'd have prayed that she'd eventually find happiness, come to her senses and settle down with a new, and hopefully, permanent love.
If I'd been Charles mother, I think I would have realised that I had actually been at least partly responsible for allowing/encouraging/harangueing (sp?!) him into a marriage that he was clearly reluctant to enter and only did so out of duty.
Oh annie, not more reminiscences?!! I shall be on look out and avoid!!!

Wow calm down ladies, so much vitriol going on here! So many assumptions being made about the characters of those being discussed. I suggest a lie down in a quiet room listening to the the song by Rag & Boneman called ' We're only humans after all don't put your blame on me' .All of us are an accident of birth how we turn out & what circumstances we deal with is just the luck of the draw. Some make good , some don't , most of us ' wobbly wells' do ok, spare a thought for those in dire circumstances & don't be so judgemental about those who aren't, many of them including the Royals do at least try to help, they can't 'undo' who they are any more than we can !