Sir Ranulph Fiennes

MawsRosie

DaisyAnneReturns

Could it be that none of this is true?

What makes you say this?

It's a question I ask about most "news". Just a question not an accusation.

DaisyAnneReturns

MawsRosie

DaisyAnneReturns

Could it be that none of this is true?

What makes you say this?

It's a question I ask about most "news". Just a question not an accusation.

But at what point after doing your own digging/reading and research do you allow yourself to stop being sceptical?
Obviously we could all be wrong but for respected individuals such as Ben Fogle, Bear Grylls, John Simpson, Robin Hanbury-Tenison, fellow explorer ,Anton Bowring, plus his sister in law and his stepson to all be voicing concern suggests all is not as it should be.

It’s “ok” to question “news@, it’s also ok to research oneself too.

Some bizarre stories have been proven to be totally untrue.

I’m not sure this is the case here though,

I believe the OPG - Office of the Public Guardian - has been alerted.
Seems old friend John Simpson has also raised concerns.

MawsRosie

DaisyAnneReturns

MawsRosie

DaisyAnneReturns

Could it be that none of this is true?

What makes you say this?

It's a question I ask about most "news". Just a question not an accusation.

But at what point after doing your own digging/reading and research do you allow yourself to stop being sceptical?
Obviously we could all be wrong but for respected individuals such as Ben Fogle, Bear Grylls, John Simpson, Robin Hanbury-Tenison, fellow explorer ,Anton Bowring, plus his sister in law and his stepson to all be voicing concern suggests all is not as it should be.

^But at what point after doing your own digging/reading and research do you allow yourself to stop being sceptical? (MawsRosie).

I think that would need the ability to distinguish scepticism from perpetual doubt. The first is healthy epistemic humility; the second doesn't follow from it.

A sufficient number of people have raised concerns for this to be taken seriously.

It is bizarre behaviour on the part of the wife and sounds like elder abuse, especially with his wife's insistence on providing the medication and a private carer, as he was not registered with a GP local to one of the care homes.

epistemic humility

Oh dear.

Her own son, Sir Ranulph's stepson is saying he has had no contact with him for a few years despite having had a close relationship in the past, and he has set up a crowd funding page to get legal help. So sad, she has obviously got some mental problems but surely this should be picked up by the Authorities/ social services if she moving him around all care home are regulated.

eazybee

^epistemic humility^

Oh dear.

Blimey!

Nearly exactly this happened to my friend She had been in a very long-term relationship with her partner, they had a house together and had happily been in a partnership for a very long time, they both got quite poorly, and she was unable to care for him as she had to have ‘in hospital’ treatment so she temporarily found him respite care in a nice care home while she was in hospital . I believe she had cancer, however unbeknown to her, his family (who had never liked her) moved him to a different care home, and told the care home management that that she wasn’t allowed to visit under any circumstances. This poor lady couldn’t find him, he had disappeared she was distraught. Eventually she found where he was but the care home management wouldn’t allow her to visit . He actually died before she ever got to see him again, she was heartbroken, she wasn’t even told when or where the funeral was.

The law is the law and care homes have to respect that. Whether it's gossip or fact it's probably a good time to set up a Power of Attorney if you haven't already done so.

Thanks for your advice DAR I m sure most of us on here have done that already, have you ?

MawsRosie

notgran

He actually was in the TA's version of the SAS. I worked for a time with Army Officers who got very cross when his Military "exploits" were hugely exaggerated.

Confusing, I read this
The Royal Scots Greys: He joined his father's former tank regiment as an officer during the Cold War.
Special Air Service (SAS): He later joined the elite Special Air Service (SAS) as a demolitions expert, becoming the youngest captain in the British Army at the time. He was eventually dismissed from the SAS following an off-duty stunt involving a film set explosion.
^Oman: He completed counter-insurgency operations while attached to the Army of the Sultan of Oman, where he won the Sultan's Bravery Medal^

As a matter of interest MawsRosie, where was this from?

BlueBelle

Thanks for your advice DAR I m sure most of us on here have done that already, have you ?

Why do you feel the need to share what to most is confidential and then cross examine others demanding that they also share on an open forum?

It seems to be the power of attorney that is causing the issue to be honest.

@ notgran
"Training: After struggling to achieve the required academic marks for the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, Ranulph Fiennes attended the Mons Officer Cadet School.
Commission: He successfully commissioned into his father's former regiment, the Royal Scots Greys (an armored cavalry tank unit).
Selection and Dismissal from the SAS
Special Air Service: He passed selection for the elite SAS and specialized in demolitions, achieving the rank of captain at a remarkably young age.
The Movie Set Incident: In 1966, while still training with the SAS, he and a fellow officer attempted to use army explosives to blow up a fake concrete dam built in Castle Combe for the production of the movie Doctor Dolittle, which they felt ruined the natural village.
Dismissal: The stunt resulted in a heavy fine and his immediate dismissal from the SAS, though he was allowed to return briefly to service with the Royal Scots Greys.
Service in Oman
Dhofar War: Seeking active field command, he was seconded to the Army of the Sultanate of Oman during the Dhofar Rebellion.
Bravery Medal: His active frontline service earned him the Sultan's Bravery Medal in 1970 before he left the military to begin his full-time career as an explorer."
Google, I'm afraid!

notgran

MawsRosie

notgran

He actually was in the TA's version of the SAS. I worked for a time with Army Officers who got very cross when his Military "exploits" were hugely exaggerated.

Confusing, I read this
The Royal Scots Greys: He joined his father's former tank regiment as an officer during the Cold War.
Special Air Service (SAS): He later joined the elite Special Air Service (SAS) as a demolitions expert, becoming the youngest captain in the British Army at the time. He was eventually dismissed from the SAS following an off-duty stunt involving a film set explosion.
^Oman: He completed counter-insurgency operations while attached to the Army of the Sultan of Oman, where he won the Sultan's Bravery Medal^

As a matter of interest MawsRosie, where was this from?

His military career with the Royal Scots Greys then with the SAS is well documented, notgran.

He trained at Mons Officer Cadet School, not Sandhurst, went on to join his father's regiment, then the SAS. His last two years was a secondment to the Oman Armed Forces.

Crossed post, MawsRosie

I think it’s possible that there is some press sensationalisation going on here. It is the estranged stepson of his wife who has raised this. He doesn’t know where his stepfather is, that may be a for a reason. For example, according to the Metro, ‘Mrs Millington-Cotes reportedly went to extreme lengths to conceal Sir Ranulph’s identity, including insisting his wearing of a hat, sunglasses and gloves to prevent anyone recognising his face or frostbite-damaged fingers when out for walks.’

We don’t know if that is OTT, because it could be that he or she doesn’t want anybody to see him, either outside, or in his care home, in what is a very vulnerable state, it could be driven by love rather than control.

I don’t know, I’m not defending her, I just think it’s always easy to jump to negative conclusions.

Casdon

I think it’s possible that there is some press sensationalisation going on here. It is the estranged stepson of his wife who has raised this. He doesn’t know where his stepfather is, that may be a for a reason. For example, according to the Metro, ‘Mrs Millington-Cotes reportedly went to extreme lengths to conceal Sir Ranulph’s identity, including insisting his wearing of a hat, sunglasses and gloves to prevent anyone recognising his face or frostbite-damaged fingers when out for walks.’

We don’t know if that is OTT, because it could be that he or she doesn’t want anybody to see him, either outside, or in his care home, in what is a very vulnerable state, it could be driven by love rather than control.

I don’t know, I’m not defending her, I just think it’s always easy to jump to negative conclusions.

Mr Millington-Coates is her son, the step-son of Sir Ranulph.

He claims that no-one has seen Sir Ranulph for two years and many people are concerned including care home staff.
According to him, his mother estranged him after a row a few years ago. Sir Ranulph's daughter has not spoken publicly about her mother's actions.

Sorry, I meant his stepson, son of his wife. Their joint daughter is young I think. As I said, I’m not saying anything other than that there might well be two sides to this story, and we have only heard one.

From what I can see it is a close friend of Fiennes as well, or certainly it is him who he is providing the information on social media - michael kobold. He is making some hellish accusations.

DaisyAnneReturns

BlueBelle

Thanks for your advice DAR I m sure most of us on here have done that already, have you ?

Why do you feel the need to share what to most is confidential and then cross examine others demanding that they also share on an open forum?

‘Cross examine others’ what are you on about DAR that doesn’t make sense who am I cross examining ?

And here people is the reason I stopped posting, or indeed interacting with GN.

A thread about a brilliant, brave man who may be in trouble is at risk of descending, yet again, into a petty self interested squabble.

I don’t expect to be welcome on GN again, but there we are.

Well said!
(Yet) another iteration of “starting a rammy in an empty room”