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Rupert Lowe and Dunblane

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Tuliptree Thu 09-Jul-26 12:16:45

Many of us on here will recall Dunblane. No words will ever sufficiently express the heartbreak and horror of that day and the emotion that the class photograph still engenders. There is nothing that Rupert Lowe can ever say to make amends for at best his ill- informed stupidity and at worst his deliberate lying to make a cheap point about gun control

butterandjam Thu 09-Jul-26 18:36:24

MaizieD

Who on earth does the man think he is speaking for?

What matters, is WHO he was lying to, about UK gun controls, and WHY.

He was speaking about gun control in UK on a Joe Rogan podcast.

The Joe Rogan Experience (Podcast Charts), is consistently the most-listened-to show in the United States, averaging roughly 11 million views or downloads per episode. His audience is significantly larger than the primetime viewership of major US cable news networks like CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News combined.

That's 11 million Americans misinformed by a British MP that the UK "they banned hand guns because there was a murder up in Dunblane"

Rogan queries it instantly " ONE Murder? "

Lowe confirms loud and clear "ONE murder" .

He then expands an argument that UK gun controls are the reason "we now have a society that needs radical change."

Watch it for yourself

<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9psJ4Uszc5Y>

Luckygirl3 Thu 09-Jul-26 18:37:27

I think it is taking notice of these people and the media giving them the oxygen of publicity that has got us in this situation. Farage is a nobody ... a useless provincial MP with no policies. He is in the public eye because the media have put him there ... they like his soundbites his laddish media friendly persona, the photo opportunities etc.
He is a total media construct who has gained a following courtesy if the media.
It is such a slippery slope ... hovernment by media is the way we are heading.
They dictate who is in the public to eye and whose comments to feature and can take a total nothing like Farage and let his fascist pronouncements influence those of minimal brain so that all of a sudden they have presented him with a following on a plate. And frankly I think he is like a rabbit in the headlights and does not know what to do. He is in danger of being asked to actually have policies .... then what the heck does he do!?
So I make no apologies for saying they should be ignored.....

Tuliptree Thu 09-Jul-26 18:54:42

Butterjam- excellent post and Luckygirl that’s why we can’t ignore them or brush them off as insensitive oafs RL and NF have an agenda just as Trump does for the USA and its nothing to do with improving society for the majority. But goodness aren’t they past masters at fooling so many

Luckygirl3 Thu 09-Jul-26 19:00:58

I think they are fooling themselves and we are being fooled by the media who lap it up and big it up.

Tuliptree Thu 09-Jul-26 19:10:44

But Lucky the people they appeal to and manipulate won’t ignore them and the media certainly won’t either so it’s just wishful thinking.

Marmight Thu 09-Jul-26 19:23:18

I lived not very far away. My husband had a colleague whose children were at the school. I rang my husband to tell him what had happened and his colleague raced to the school not knowing what he’d discover. Luckily for him, his children were not in the class involved. I remember that day as if it were yesterday. 😢

Whitewavemark2 Thu 09-Jul-26 19:23:19

The right wing media are positively supporting Reform, although not sure about Murdoch?

butterandjam Thu 09-Jul-26 19:57:27

Cossy

My suggestion is Mr Lowe re-locates tuit de suite to America, where he can purchase as many guns as he desires!

You've completely misunderstood.

The media did not put Farage and Lowe where they are.

Farage and Lowe are bought and paid for by the richest men in the world (Christopher Harbourne, Elon Musk, for starters) to do their bidding and advance their agendas.

Farage's fascist intention is clear; to disrupt the United Kingdom; its Government, its electorate, its laws; our democracy in the UK. If Reform folds, Lowe steps in

<https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/restore-rupert-lowe-makerfield-andy-burnham-b2996600.html>

"Rupert Lowe is rapidly becoming the most dangerous man you’ve never heard of The massively outsized online reach of the Restore leader’s micro-party – boosted by Elon Musk – is cannibalising the right. For those concerned about the resurgence of the politics of Enoch Powell,"....

butterandjam Thu 09-Jul-26 19:59:06

Sorry, I intended t to quote Luckygirl3, not Cossy.
sorry Cossy.

butterandjam Thu 09-Jul-26 20:26:47

Graphite

Lowe has been irritable about gun control since his father lost his shooting pistols, taken as part of the ban on handguns.

Last year his own large gun collection was removed by police (and later returned) after Zia Yusuf and Lee Anderson made complaints about him. He has so many guns he trundles them around in a wheelbarrow.

He’s a angry, hate-filled man much of the time and frankly I’m surprised the police let him renew his certificates. If he thinks Dunblane was one murder (and he didn’t say it once but twice when Rogan asked him to confirm), then his faculties are not what they should be.

Yet he pretended on Rogan, that in UK it's very difficult to own guns for hunting and sport.

He’s a angry, hate-filled man much of the time and frankly I’m surprised the police let him renew his certificates.

I'd say exactly the same of the Dunblane killer and his firearms certificate, as did many other people who knew him.

<https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/14023/police-conduct-and-the-case-of-thomas-hamilton>

Dickens Thu 09-Jul-26 20:34:42

Luckygirl3

A man to ignore I think .....

I think we ignore him at our peril.

While we are busily ignoring him, other disaffected individuals are listening and taking note.

Cossy Thu 09-Jul-26 21:16:50

butterandjam

Sorry, I intended t to quote Luckygirl3, not Cossy.
sorry Cossy.

It’s all good and I understand what you say and frankly I do fear these people, Farage, Lowe and their puppet masters. Just as I fear Trump.

They are dangerous, they are divisive, they are very rich, they have rich backers, a huge reach online and are smoothed tongued liars.

Be afraid. Be very afraid!

Graphite Thu 09-Jul-26 21:51:29

After watching a programme on BBC4 from poet Simon Armitage about Homer’s Odyssey and now one about Bletchley Park’s code breakers crucial in the defeat of the Nazis, I see a tweet from Rupert Lowe.

Apparently “the BBC is dripping poison into the veins of Britain every day” and when he’s in power he will defund it on day one.

And this man is allowed to have guns.

Oreo Thu 09-Jul-26 22:02:46

Tuliptree

Butterjam- excellent post and Luckygirl that’s why we can’t ignore them or brush them off as insensitive oafs RL and NF have an agenda just as Trump does for the USA and its nothing to do with improving society for the majority. But goodness aren’t they past masters at fooling so many

Calling him an insensitive oaf is good enough for me, why not, I would never vote for any political party with him in it.
If anyone likes him and agrees with him on gun control or anything else that’s up to them, no doubt some do.He doesn’t hide who he is or what he stands for, everyone can see and hear for themselves.
The ones to fear are those who hide who they are until they’re in a position of power.