Hundreds of illegal migrants to be put in existing military barracks

Oreo

GrannyGravy13

If you had read my earlier post MaizieD you would know that I am in favour of Barracks being utilised in this way 🤦‍♀️

Me too, it’s the obvious answer to migrant housing.
MaizieD I consider your comments disgraceful to other GN members and absolutely untrue.

How can you know what Maizie is led to believe?

I read all the comments on a thread CatsWhiskas if you must know, and there is nothing to suggest that GN members deserve those kind of untruths.

I said, I have no problem with disused barracks either. It seems preferable to hotels and houses in the community for several reasons. I saw nothing wrong with the barge idea either, providing conditions were sanitary.

Actually, the feelings about accommodating illegal migrants are pretty much the same in every European country. I was watching an article here on French tv talking about illegal migrants being housed in mobile homes on a campsite in the South. When at the same time next door was a campsite full of families on their holidays. Of course, that caused animosity too.

I believe that the UK is more generally tolerant of migrants than many other countries.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Not all cases of migrants landing here are genuine asylum seekers. If they were there’d be no need for Tik Tok guides and coaches telling them to ‘pretend they’re gay’ to game the system. We are too soft.

It will always be a problem on the margins deciding who is genuine - at things stand, we have to just try to assess as soon as possible.

My feelings are, if you are genuine, you will just be glad of the respite from what you are fleeing

- the one refugee I recently spoke myself when I was visiting someone who did voluntary work with refugees who fit the billt now aged 17 had arrived 2 years ago as his parents were murdered by machetes in front of him - he hardly would object to a barrack bed and enough food whilst waiting would he.

How many is enough? 1 m or 2 m maybe and what if they never stop coming. Surely something must be done, it wiped the Torys out and it will wipe Labour out and Reform will flourish.

Surely they are asylum seekers at this point.

We wouldn't be housing illegal migrants - unless they are all waiting for transportation elsewhere!
There are people waiting for claims to be assessed.

Home Office guidelines and factsheets for UK military sites (such as Wethersfield, Napier Barracks, and the newer sites like Crowborough and Cameron Barracks) specify that these facilities are used exclusively to house single adult male asylum seekers between the ages of 18 and 65.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/asylum-accommodation-at-military-sites-factsheets/crowborough-training-camp-east-sussex-factsheet?hl=en-GB#:~:text=We%20have%20committed%20to%20exiting,ages%20of%2018%20and%2065.

MartavTaurus

I guess it's a short term solution, but not the answer to the problem.
Add these young male illegal migrants to the 6,000 killers, rapists and sex offenders being freed early from prison from September, and we have a tinderbox waiting to ignite.

Just because we move the problem round the houses, it doesn't go away and certainly serves as no deterrent.

MartavTaurus, 6,000 killers, rapists and sex offenders are NOT being freed early from prison from September.

*Killers are completely excluded
*Serious sex offenders and violent criminals face stricter rules, not early release
*High-risk offenders, terrorists, and those serving 7+ years for the most severe violent crimes (like manslaughter or wounding with intent) are excluded.

Thought you would be pleased to know this.

Really NotSpaghetti ? Glad to know that as the news includes manslaughter and sex offenders will be released halfway through sentences.

Oreo

Really NotSpaghetti ? Glad to know that as the news includes manslaughter and sex offenders will be released halfway through sentences.

You are right those prisoners will be released in the autumn

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Toula

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

There are many of us who feel this way, but are labelled far right and terrible people.👹
I find it. very frightening ,all these young men,(very few women and children)” Why”we dont know who they are or what there intentions are and dont tell me they’re just coming across from Dover. There’s a long coastline there. I bet they’re coming along in smaller numbers in smaller boats right along the coastline and then just disappearing
But according to the left, “nothing to see here” 🤷‍♀️
I tend to disagree… 🤔
Time will tell!!

I have rechecked this and the dividing line is the 7 years Oreo

It is true that "serious" sex offenders are outwith this scheme - those whose sex crimes have a determinate sentence of 7 years will not be released (This includes rape).

Also those with Extended Determinate Sentences (which judges hand down when they officially rule a sex offender or violent criminal to be "dangerous") is also excluded
These individuals can never get automatic release

Sorry, I wasn't more specific.
I have re-checked your question re manslaughter - that would fall into the 7 year rule too.
To the law, the under "7 years" prisoners are distinct from "high culpability" killers who have 7 years or more.

Shinamae

Toula

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

There are many of us who feel this way, but are labelled far right and terrible people.👹
I find it. very frightening ,all these young men,(very few women and children)” Why”we dont know who they are or what there intentions are and dont tell me they’re just coming across from Dover. There’s a long coastline there. I bet they’re coming along in smaller numbers in smaller boats right along the coastline and then just disappearing
But according to the left, “nothing to see here” 🤷‍♀️
I tend to disagree… 🤔
Time will tell!!

It’s unlikely that many small boat crossings evade detection. They are heavily tracked . ‘The UK Border Force and Ministry of Defence use a combination of radar, drones, helicopters, and AI surveillance to monitor the coastline and track vessels at sea.Once detected, the authorities intercept the boats and escort them to dedicated processing centres (primarily in Kent)

So anyone who has been serving a 15 year sentence for rape or manslaughter who would have got out in 10 years with good behaviour will now be released after 7 .5 years? Which is half the original sentence.

Perhaps we have more to fear from people who are the Safeguarding lead in a school?

Casdon

Shinamae

Toula

Also moving them to massive Army base in Grantham. Personally, I cannot understand why we allow undocumented, unvaccinated, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking, different cultured, etc, who throw away any ID upon landing on British or other European shores. Just considering where I would go and live given the same circumstances. Monaco, perhaps.

There are many of us who feel this way, but are labelled far right and terrible people.👹
I find it. very frightening ,all these young men,(very few women and children)” Why”we dont know who they are or what there intentions are and dont tell me they’re just coming across from Dover. There’s a long coastline there. I bet they’re coming along in smaller numbers in smaller boats right along the coastline and then just disappearing
But according to the left, “nothing to see here” 🤷‍♀️
I tend to disagree… 🤔
Time will tell!!

It’s unlikely that many small boat crossings evade detection. They are heavily tracked . ‘The UK Border Force and Ministry of Defence use a combination of radar, drones, helicopters, and AI surveillance to monitor the coastline and track vessels at sea.Once detected, the authorities intercept the boats and escort them to dedicated processing centres (primarily in Kent)

Thanks for clarifying that,Casdon but i’m pretty sure some will slip through undetected…🤷‍♀️

Oreo, this has been the case for many years. The majority of prisoners, including those convicted of serious crimes, are eligible to apply to the parole board some way into their sentence, half way being not unusual, unless the judge's sentencing statement deems a minimum serve,or, occasionally, a whole life tariff.

Maybe next door to you Lemonjam.
Or are you one of these people that think’ just not in my backyard”?

Oreo

So anyone who has been serving a 15 year sentence for rape or manslaughter who would have got out in 10 years with good behaviour will now be released after 7 .5 years? Which is half the original sentence.

The 15-year case, Oreo is a perfect example of why the media headlines are causing confusion.

Under the Sentencing Act 2026, that individual will serve 10 years, not 7.5 years.
That 10-year release point stays completely frozen.

The 7-Year Rule is totally fixed. The drop to a 50% release point only applies to standard determinate sentences under 7 years.
If a sentence is 7 years or longer for manslaughter or serious sex crimes, the law completely blocks them from the halfway rule.

MartavTaurus

I said, I have no problem with disused barracks either. It seems preferable to hotels and houses in the community for several reasons. I saw nothing wrong with the barge idea either, providing conditions were sanitary.

Actually, the feelings about accommodating illegal migrants are pretty much the same in every European country. I was watching an article here on French tv talking about illegal migrants being housed in mobile homes on a campsite in the South. When at the same time next door was a campsite full of families on their holidays. Of course, that caused animosity too.

But at least the holiday makers return home MT

Primrose53

Linton on Ouse, Yorkshire

Barnham, Suffolk

Bicester, Oxfordshire

Plus they are planning to expand other barracks.

All young men who we know nothing about.

Linton on Ouse, Yorkshire. Pop 800. Tories were looking to house 1500 migrants there. I wonder if labour are going to do the same.

MT62

Maybe next door to you Lemonjam.
Or are you one of these people that think’ just not in my backyard”?

I agree with the majority of other posters that this solution to house asylum seekers, whilst their asylum applications are being processed, seems better than hotels and HMOs, even in barracks close to where I live.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Not all cases of migrants landing here are genuine asylum seekers. If they were there’d be no need for Tik Tok guides and coaches telling them to ‘pretend they’re gay’ to game the system. We are too soft.

👍🏻

Well Lemonjam we will see how the people in the lovely village of ‘Linton on Ouse’ go on. I bet not too happy.
Thankfully we don’t have any army barracks where we live.
But we do have those HMOs.
Houses next door either side, every window as a ‘George flag’, so doesn’t sound like they are too happy either.