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Another appalling attack

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Cossy Wed 29-Apr-26 13:04:56

My heart goes out to the Jewish community in Golders Green.

I utterly condemn these attacks and wish the stabbing victims a full and speedy recovery.

love0c Thu 30-Apr-26 07:56:38

AGAA4 Exactly! This thread shows Jewish hatred is alive and kicking. These people know exactly who they are. Sickening!

AGAA4 Thu 30-Apr-26 07:57:05

ferry thanks for posting that. While the keyboard warriors would be running away the police have to run towards and tackle a crazed man with a knife who would have gone on with his murderous rampage.
Well done to those policeman putting their own lives at risk to save others.

Galaxy Thu 30-Apr-26 07:57:18

I have often in the past criticised the behaviour of the Met police.
I am very sad it is necessary but I was in awe at their response, considerable bravery.

Sarnia Thu 30-Apr-26 08:17:21

On the BBC News last night they said the perpetrator was well known as having serious violent and mental health issues. Here we go again. Why then is he at liberty to walk the streets? We are too slow to learn and too slow to act.

petra Thu 30-Apr-26 08:36:17

Moving to a less Jewish area is a non starter.
As a Jew you would loose your whole support system. You would no longer be able to live your life as a practicing Jew.
No kosher shops, no schools, no synagogue, not wearing the clothes that you would normally wear.
No hairdressers to care for the women’s wigs.
It’s a whole life way of living.

ferry23 Thu 30-Apr-26 08:36:37

love0c

AGAA4 Exactly! This thread shows Jewish hatred is alive and kicking. These people know exactly who they are. Sickening!

Threads about injustices and attacks on Jews always bring out the "hiding in plain sight" posters.

Those that have the answers to a problem that has existed since time immemorial. And like to tell the rest of us hmm

Self righteous pearl clutching preachers who fail to, or simply refuse to, read the room.

I often know who has written a particular post without looking at their name.

(The lovely Israeli GNetter who eventually felt hounded off the site.)

I wonder if they realise how obvious they make themselves?

sixandahalf Thu 30-Apr-26 08:41:02

Where is Jewish hatred on this thread please?

Franbern Thu 30-Apr-26 08:43:24

This seems to have been an attack by someone with long standing mental health issues.
So, suddenly the magic money tree produces more money for the police.
Perhaps if Mental Health had not been so cash strapped, with workers in it leaving or even having breakdowns as they are so overworked,. Staffing has been cut, whilst workloads substantially increased.
The best security against this sort of attack (against anybody), would be a very substantial and on-going increase in NHS mental health funding.

Galaxy Thu 30-Apr-26 08:47:30

It is odd when these mental health episodes target Jews rather than I don't know Hindus or catholics, it seems to be a very specific type of 'mental health'.

rosie1959 Thu 30-Apr-26 08:48:45

Well said Ferry23 the police did an excellent job. To those who criticise them how exactly would they have got the knife off this attacker? Ask him nicely?

TerriBull Thu 30-Apr-26 08:48:50

Has it ever been suggested, that any other demographic should move away from their establised communities?? I can't help thinking this is just another subliminal dig, "your Jewish, expect these attacks, therefore the onus for your safety should be with yourselves" hmm Not much better than Zac Polanski's "is it just the perception of the Jewish community that they experience more attacks than any one else, rather than the actual reality" something along those lines. Yeah right!you've nailed it Zac sad Yet another with a skewed vision of how matters really are. Head and sand spring to mind.

petra Thu 30-Apr-26 08:50:01

Why is it that these countries have banned The Muslim Brotherhood.
Egypt
Russia
Saudi Arabia
UAE
Bahrain
Jordan.
Bar one of the above the common denominator is obvious.
So why, as a Christian country we haven’t 🤷‍♀️

MartavTaurus Thu 30-Apr-26 08:53:41

TerriBull

Has it ever been suggested, that any other demographic should move away from their establised communities?? I can't help thinking this is just another subliminal dig, "your Jewish, expect these attacks, therefore the onus for your safety should be with yourselves" hmm Not much better than Zac Polanski's "is it just the perception of the Jewish community that they experience more attacks than any one else, rather than the actual reality" something along those lines. Yeah right!you've nailed it Zac sad Yet another with a skewed vision of how matters really are. Head and sand spring to mind.

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GrannyGravy13 Thu 30-Apr-26 09:03:33

MartavTaurus

TerriBull

Has it ever been suggested, that any other demographic should move away from their establised communities?? I can't help thinking this is just another subliminal dig, "your Jewish, expect these attacks, therefore the onus for your safety should be with yourselves" hmm Not much better than Zac Polanski's "is it just the perception of the Jewish community that they experience more attacks than any one else, rather than the actual reality" something along those lines. Yeah right!you've nailed it Zac sad Yet another with a skewed vision of how matters really are. Head and sand spring to mind.

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ferry23 Thu 30-Apr-26 09:04:07

MartavTaurus

TerriBull

Has it ever been suggested, that any other demographic should move away from their establised communities?? I can't help thinking this is just another subliminal dig, "your Jewish, expect these attacks, therefore the onus for your safety should be with yourselves" hmm Not much better than Zac Polanski's "is it just the perception of the Jewish community that they experience more attacks than any one else, rather than the actual reality" something along those lines. Yeah right!you've nailed it Zac sad Yet another with a skewed vision of how matters really are. Head and sand spring to mind.

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Of course that hasn't been suggested TerriBull. In some cases that would mean dismantling the demographics of whole cities. And that would effectively be ethnic cleansing.

But apparently, the very few small enclaves where for very practical reasons the Jewish community live are ok to dismantle and separate people from their friends, their schools, their work, their shops, their places of worship - in fact dismantle a whole community that has been built up over many years. That's seemingly not ethnic cleansing, it's "for their safety".

Grantanow Thu 30-Apr-26 09:06:33

Short term measures can be taken (banning anti-Semitic marches, deporting hate preachers, more security, etc.,) though they won't guarantee total safety.

Long term education has to address latent anti-Semitism in the population which has been inculcated for centuries.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 30-Apr-26 09:08:18

Grantanow

Short term measures can be taken (banning anti-Semitic marches, deporting hate preachers, more security, etc.,) though they won't guarantee total safety.

Long term education has to address latent anti-Semitism in the population which has been inculcated for centuries.

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AGAA4 Thu 30-Apr-26 09:27:29

Jewish people should not have to change their lifestyle or be hounded out of their homes. Haven't they had to do that for centuries.
Society needs to change. I agree with Grantanow about education starting in the nursery.
This can never be an easy fix but we have to try. It's intolerable that this hatred leading to violence is happening in this century.

Casdon Thu 30-Apr-26 09:37:09

Has anybody seen anything further about the other attack that morning which was thought to be allegedly by the same perpetrator? I saw it reported immediately after the Golders Green attack, but nothing since.

mum2three Thu 30-Apr-26 09:40:04

What a mess this country is in! If only more politicians understood human nature. By allowing all these pro-Palestine marches they are actively encouraging anti-Jewish feeling. It goes beyond what is happening in Israel.
This government needs to put aside all their personal ideals and projects and start putting things right in this country. Their first duty is to the people of Great Britain, not to the EU, globalisation or any other idealism.

Primrose53 Thu 30-Apr-26 09:40:24

The perpetrator arrived in this country as a child from Somalia. He has British Citizenship.

eazybee Thu 30-Apr-26 09:51:34

This government needs to put aside all their personal ideals and projects and start putting things right in this country. Their first duty is to the people of Great Britain, not to the EU, globalisation or any other idealism.

So absolutely right, Mum2three

Doodledog Thu 30-Apr-26 10:08:41

Galaxy

Ok I will bite. People who play this game are going to get a shock if I know anything about this country. So if that's the choice put before us I stand with the Jewish community.

Sorry, but I don't understand this post. Which game are (which) people playing, and why will they get a shock - ie what is likely to happen? And what do you know about the UK that you're not saying? Also, what is the choice put before us?

Allira Thu 30-Apr-26 10:41:03

Whitewavemark2

It must be so worrying for people particularly those with children I think.

I can understand the reasoning behind moving.

I would definitely move out of an area if I was Jewish and it had a high concentration of Jewish folk.

Too easy for terrorists to identify a group and cause mayhem. Not so easy if as a Jewish person I spread myself into the local community, although if I am a practicing Jew the synagogue must be a risk.

DH has just said that the person arrested has mental health issues?

So many of these dreadful acts are carried out by people who are seriously ill. It does need addressing.

I would definitely move out of an area if I was Jewish and it had a high concentration of Jewish folk.

I really don't see why Jewish people should have to move away from friends, family, support groups, for their own safety in the United Kingdom in the 21st century.

That is quite an astonishing suggestion and suggestive of what has happened over centuries of persecution of Jewish people who have had to flee their homes because their lives were in danger to seek sanctuary elsewhere.

This is one of the countries where they sought sanctuary and, sadly, it is no longer safe.

Allira Thu 30-Apr-26 10:43:08

DH has just said that the person arrested has mental health issues?

Of course he must have! 🤔
It always is.

Or could it be that he is just plain evil and full of hatred?