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Another assassination attempt on Donald Trump

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merlotgran Sun 26-Apr-26 09:43:57

Now I am really worried about the King and Queen’s visit tomorrow.

Maremia Mon 27-Apr-26 08:45:55

Was that servicemen hit by friendly fire?

Oldnproud Mon 27-Apr-26 09:01:24

MaizieD

imaround

An article on the suspect. He doesn't seem to fit the narrative we were given.

www.kenklippenstein.com/p/assassin-wasnt-on-fbis-radar-sources

That’s really interesting, imaround. How reliable is this blogger?

I agree -a really interesting article,

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 27-Apr-26 09:09:19

Well Iamaround taken from the link you provided was this;

“ From Luigi Mangione to Cole Allen, these shooters aren’t the antisocial loners of media imagination. They’re smart, well-liked, often idealistic. They have no prior criminal record. They take pains to avoid bystander casualties, as Allen reportedly did. But they share one conviction: that the political system has failed completely, and someone has to act.

“I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack,” Allen’s manifesto reads.”

So, Cole the gunman (not as the article states ‘the alleged gunman’ as there was no doubt he had a gun and fired it) is another person from the Be Kind sector who doesn’t agree with democracy when it isn’t going his way?

Bizarre behaviour from a man, highly educated or not, don’t you agree?

Wyllow3 Mon 27-Apr-26 09:11:58

Smileless2012

It must have been a stunt. With 4 previous presidents assassinated, the attempted assassination of Reagan and the already 'attempted assassination' of Trump, I can't believe that the security could be that useless.

Agreed.
A pretty high chance it was to to get publicity, minds off things.

Casdon Mon 27-Apr-26 09:24:21

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well Iamaround taken from the link you provided was this;

“ From Luigi Mangione to Cole Allen, these shooters aren’t the antisocial loners of media imagination. They’re smart, well-liked, often idealistic. They have no prior criminal record. They take pains to avoid bystander casualties, as Allen reportedly did. But they share one conviction: that the political system has failed completely, and someone has to act.

“I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack,” Allen’s manifesto reads.”

So, Cole the gunman (not as the article states ‘the alleged gunman’ as there was no doubt he had a gun and fired it) is another person from the Be Kind sector who doesn’t agree with democracy when it isn’t going his way?

Bizarre behaviour from a man, highly educated or not, don’t you agree?

Maybe he was thinking of the millions of people who have lost their rights, healthcare, and means of survival since Trump came into power. When you look at it that way it is less bizarre if you believe that if you kill one man you benefit millions.

Oldnproud Mon 27-Apr-26 09:26:11

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well Iamaround taken from the link you provided was this;

“ From Luigi Mangione to Cole Allen, these shooters aren’t the antisocial loners of media imagination. They’re smart, well-liked, often idealistic. They have no prior criminal record. They take pains to avoid bystander casualties, as Allen reportedly did. But they share one conviction: that the political system has failed completely, and someone has to act.

“I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack,” Allen’s manifesto reads.”

So, Cole the gunman (not as the article states ‘the alleged gunman’ as there was no doubt he had a gun and fired it) is another person from the Be Kind sector who doesn’t agree with democracy when it isn’t going his way?

Bizarre behaviour from a man, highly educated or not, don’t you agree?

Personally, I don't see it as bizarre behaviour from someone who has firm religious beliefs - as many Americans seem to - and strongly believes that Trump is evil and doing evil things.
I can certainly understand how someone in his position might not just want to, but actually feel compelled, to try to do what he did.
I'm not saying that I condone it - just that I don't find it the slightest bit bizarre or surprising.

Maremia Mon 27-Apr-26 09:27:08

Questioning the 'narrative' given out by this Regime, is not the same as succumbing to conspiracy theory.

sixandahalf Mon 27-Apr-26 09:49:29

What on earth is the Be Kind sector?

BlessedArt Mon 27-Apr-26 10:10:10

Most American mass shooters are far-right. Trump knows this, hence his administration scrubbing factual information about their domestic terrorism problem from most government websites. How convenient! They are going after civil rights organizations. Now they have the perfect shooter. Sorry, but it’s all very perfectly fit together with the narrative these crooks are pushing. No doubt this was a disturbed individual. I will always wonder who truly was helping him “facilitate” this “assassination” attempt. Conspiracy theories are bedtime stories when it comes to looking at the reality things. I will be skeptical of any story pushed by people who bomb children’s schools and flippantly lie about it.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 27-Apr-26 11:33:30

Casdon

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well Iamaround taken from the link you provided was this;

“ From Luigi Mangione to Cole Allen, these shooters aren’t the antisocial loners of media imagination. They’re smart, well-liked, often idealistic. They have no prior criminal record. They take pains to avoid bystander casualties, as Allen reportedly did. But they share one conviction: that the political system has failed completely, and someone has to act.

“I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack,” Allen’s manifesto reads.”

So, Cole the gunman (not as the article states ‘the alleged gunman’ as there was no doubt he had a gun and fired it) is another person from the Be Kind sector who doesn’t agree with democracy when it isn’t going his way?

Bizarre behaviour from a man, highly educated or not, don’t you agree?

Maybe he was thinking of the millions of people who have lost their rights, healthcare, and means of survival since Trump came into power. When you look at it that way it is less bizarre if you believe that if you kill one man you benefit millions.

Nope.
Still bizarre.
I don’t buy your logic at all.

One man’s LIFE against an upcoming ballot box?
Sheesh.
Takes some figuring to square that circle. In my mind at least.

Casdon Mon 27-Apr-26 11:40:04

We all think differently, and as people are dying every day because of Trump’s policies, some people will definitely think his life is worth less than those of other people who find themselves without support or healthcare. It’s not bizarre, it just isn’t how you see it.

Astitchintime Mon 27-Apr-26 11:47:36

Viewing the footage of the incident I am not totally convinced it wasn’t a PR stunt ordered by Trump to sensationalise matters. Yes, I know someone was shot and was wearing body armour but they could all have been shooting blanks. The actions of the security guards was dire……looked like a spaghetti western!

Macaydia Mon 27-Apr-26 11:52:34

Maybe he was severely depressed and instead of shooting himself thought he would try suicide by police, taking out the administrashun before this suicide only it didnt work because no one shot him.

Maremia Mon 27-Apr-26 13:09:34

He wasn't even on the same floor as the event.

imaround Mon 27-Apr-26 13:15:45

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well Iamaround taken from the link you provided was this;

“ From Luigi Mangione to Cole Allen, these shooters aren’t the antisocial loners of media imagination. They’re smart, well-liked, often idealistic. They have no prior criminal record. They take pains to avoid bystander casualties, as Allen reportedly did. But they share one conviction: that the political system has failed completely, and someone has to act.

“I don’t see anyone else picking up the slack,” Allen’s manifesto reads.”

So, Cole the gunman (not as the article states ‘the alleged gunman’ as there was no doubt he had a gun and fired it) is another person from the Be Kind sector who doesn’t agree with democracy when it isn’t going his way?

Bizarre behaviour from a man, highly educated or not, don’t you agree?

I think shooting anyone is bizarre behavior.

imaround Mon 27-Apr-26 13:25:01

sixandahalf

What on earth is the Be Kind sector?

I have no idea. I am going to dig into this today and see. I've never heard of it before.

imaround Mon 27-Apr-26 13:29:09

Maremia

Was that servicemen hit by friendly fire?

Never was confirmed.

Delene100 Mon 27-Apr-26 14:02:19

BlessedArt

Isn’t funny how these attempts always seem to happen when he needs public distraction or the support of near martyrdom to help him. These people have no boundaries. I question all occurrences involving him.

Me, too. Although his early morning rants on social media do invite all kinds if lunatics. Strange, how the gunman wasn't shot this time? Very suspect fir being fake as the last attempt only injured his ear. No number of attempts to get sympathy from voters will help him to win this time. Not only has he ruined America's reputation in 14 months but also the rest of the world's economies. He is dangerous and a threat to world peace. Why is he still in office?

orly Mon 27-Apr-26 14:32:44

With all that gun culture and attitude that goes with it and yet no-one can hit the target! What's it say about the USA's military abilities? No wonder there's so much so-called "friendly fire"

vintageclassics Mon 27-Apr-26 14:49:19

I find it odd his ear healed completely with no scar whatsoever from the first "attempt" then he decided not to investigate the "attack" (he's usually so litigious for all other matters!) and he's been told as there is no security justification for his appalling Ballroom in the White House it can't be built - cue second attempt. I've drawn my own conclusion

albertina Mon 27-Apr-26 15:06:01

Trump is capable of anything.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 27-Apr-26 15:12:11

Apart from perhaps one or maybe two people Trump appears universally and strongly disliked on GN.

Good to know that our moral compasses are firmly in tact.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 27-Apr-26 15:15:12

Oh Whiewavemark2 do you even realise how smug you sound?
As though everyone here is on Team A and I’m on Team B?

Well at least I don’t countenance shooting from anyone TO anyone.

Some on here sound as though they wished the deranged gunman had actually shot Trump.

Beggars belief.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 27-Apr-26 15:21:51

Blimey! It was just a passing thought.

And yes listening to Trump, Miller, Hegseth, Vance etc I do think that posters on GN do have a better moral compass, when extermination of whole populations are contemplated, imprisonment of tiny children, corruption on a massive scale, wife beaters, rapist and drunks populate Trumps cabinet.

I’m neither proud nor feeling smug to be in Team A - but I am as sure as I can be that I am on the right team.

Essexgirl145 Mon 27-Apr-26 15:24:43

It's all very John Wayne, I wish they would'nt keep missing.