Commercial Gambling is a Social Evil

Wyllow3

I guess the difference is the effect gambling has on ordinary and humble people as opposed to those who can afford to "lose".

*I don't think advertising gambling should be allowed. Period. cut off the life support system*

I agree.

I just don’t think gambling should be advertised at all and that online gambling should have more controls.

I don’t think gambling or events using animals are the same at all, I don’t think either should be banned, but much better regulated and safer.

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I hear North Korea is nice at this time of year.

Although there are two casinos there now (strictly for visitors - oh yeah?)
The casinos are designed purely for revenue extraction, allowing current Supreme Leader “Rocketman” Kim Jong Un, grandson of regime founder Kim Il Sung, to tap into international gambling demand whilst maintaining a hard internal ideological line.

Oh, and horse racing is allowed again because it brings in revenue. However, it is strictly for "the elite" - in an "egalitarian" society. 🤔

I don't know if any other GNs find this happening.

I browse the internet quite a bit but I am always very careful untick any boxes that allow third party access.

Nevertheless, I often get as many as twenty or so gambling notifications in my Junk file every day. They mainly offer free spins, whatever they are, as an inducement to join the sites. I should add that, apart from a bit of a flutter with 2p pieces in an arcade and the occasional raffle, I don't gamble.

What worries me is the fact that these sites appear to be totally unregulated and they must be tapping into other sites that have no relevance to betting and gambling. No doubt these sites are selling lists on.

It would be all too easy for me to click on one or more of these gambling sites for a 'free spin,' to get sucked in and end up on the slippery slope of gambling addiction.

Allira DH just brought home a couple of lottery tickets he won in a raffle.

That's double gambling that is!

I'm a gambler, I buy National Lottery entries, raffle tickets and have Premium Bonds.

Rosie51

Allira DH just brought home a couple of lottery tickets he won in a raffle.

That's double gambling that is!

I'm a gambler, I buy National Lottery entries, raffle tickets and have Premium Bonds.

😁
Not one number on the Euromillions!

Allira

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

You are so right. I did wonder what motivated me to post it on Gransnet. Short answers on Gransnet please.

Cossy

Wyllow3

I guess the difference is the effect gambling has on ordinary and humble people as opposed to those who can afford to "lose".

*I don't think advertising gambling should be allowed. Period. cut off the life support system*

I agree.

I just don’t think gambling should be advertised at all and that online gambling should have more controls.

I don’t think gambling or events using animals are the same at all, I don’t think either should be banned, but much better regulated and safer.

No way, Cossy. This world works commercially and militarily. Maybe the Age of Aquarius is dawning and commerce and war is the birth agony.

I don't think so!

It's been the way since humans evolved

Yes, I agree with the GNs who are saying ban gambling adverts.

You posted on Gransnet, to test the waters, and to perhaps drum up support for a ban?
Both reasons are, in my mind, fair enough.

Caleo

Allira

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

You are so right. I did wonder what motivated me to post it on Gransnet. Short answers on Gransnet please.

That one of mine was short.

Re-reading it, it sounds rather blunt. Sorry!

Although Im a risk taker I abhor gambling because I know the odds are stacked against me and I cant win. It doesn't matter whether it's horses, lottery, or the stock market. Unless you have insider information and cheat you are going to loose

GrannyGravy13

I am definitely against gambling adverts, but cannot see gambling per se ever having a blanket ban

Banning anything due to a small percentage of the population having a problem/addiction is far too authoritarian for my liking.

It's not going to happen because too much revenue is raised
On the other side why not legalize drugs and tax them, addicts dont matter they just facilitate the tax.

What a ridiculous comparator! Now if you said ban gambling and alcohol along with tobacco and vapes, then that would make more sense.

Actually what you've just said is Green Party policy is it not? Polanski wants to legalise all drugs and earn the tax revenue.

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.

Rosie51

What a ridiculous comparator! Now if you said ban gambling and alcohol along with tobacco and vapes, then that would make more sense.

Actually what you've just said is Green Party policy is it not? Polanski wants to legalise all drugs and earn the tax revenue.

Im playing devils advocate, I say what I would like to happen, but acknowledge why it isn't going to happen.

As for drugs. their use is so widely condoned, attempts to stop the illegal trade is totally ineffective we are getting to the point where drugs cause so much crime, we are not willing to spend enough on policing, controlling them in the way alcohol is controlled needs to be seriously considered.

So either spend more to control the drugs or control them and tax them.

Allira

Caleo

Allira

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

You are so right. I did wonder what motivated me to post it on Gransnet. Short answers on Gransnet please.

That one of mine was short.

Re-reading it, it sounds rather blunt. Sorry!

No problem Allira. You were quite right and I was not the least offended.

RosiesMawagain

^Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting^

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

But does that mean it gives people pleasure?

Caleo

RosiesMawagain

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

The horses used are Andalusian and Lusitano, they are breed for their stamina.

Definitely not low value

I am not pro Bull Fighting.

Caleo have you been to a Bull Fight and seen the Picadors and rejoneadores?

I don't suppose many on GN have been to a live Bullfight, we did in Madrid. The picador horses were well padded, I wouldnt know where they came from but they looked pretty dopey to me, well used to being barged around by bulls.

As for bullfighting, it was another experience, after they dispatched 5 bulls we got bored and called it a night, no doubt the bulls reappeared as beef burgers after a few days.

Bull riding in a rodeo is much more exciting entertainment, where the riders are at real risk, the bull wins every time.

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

David49

I don't suppose many on GN have been to a live Bullfight, we did in Madrid. The picador horses were well padded, I wouldnt know where they came from but they looked pretty dopey to me, well used to being barged around by bulls.

As for bullfighting, it was another experience, after they dispatched 5 bulls we got bored and called it a night, no doubt the bulls reappeared as beef burgers after a few days.

Bull riding in a rodeo is much more exciting entertainment, where the riders are at real risk, the bull wins every time.

The animal never wins when it is exploited for 'sport'.

BlueBelle

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

I agree with BlueBelle on all the points she makes.

Sometimes a person just needs to have their consciousness raised.