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Commercial Gambling is a Social Evil

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Caleo Sat 18-Apr-26 09:01:02

Same as the illegal drugs industry,; commercial gambling both gives pleasure and ruins lives.

Same as commercial and illegal dog fighting; commercial gambling with dogs is cruelty to dogs for the sake of profit.

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting;

No excuse!

valdali Mon 20-Apr-26 20:59:12

Allira

Wyllow3

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

It's never going to happen.

Gambling of one kind or another is as old as human history goes back.

Well, ending the ads might happen. I'm showing my age now, but advertising gambling seems relatively recent to me.

Agree you'll never stop the actual gambling.

Maremia Mon 20-Apr-26 18:31:27

GG13 what a lovely experience.

M0nica Mon 20-Apr-26 17:55:46

All sport is based on gambling. Individuals and teams compete for something and people watching will place bets with each other over who will win. i tmight be a fiver, tenner or a pint.

There is gambling in every commercial sport including tennis, football, rugby. If legal gambling is banned illegal gambling replaces it.

I do not know which I find most boring sport or gambling.

Allira Mon 20-Apr-26 16:12:29

Caleo

Allira

BlueBelle

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

Alcohol can wreck marriages too. Should supermarkets, corner shop, post offices stop selling it?

Already they aren't allowed to sell alcohol to children.

Children aren't usually married!

Children are not allowed to gamble either, the legal age is 18 even for buying a lottery ticket.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Apr-26 13:48:27

Caleo

GrannyGravy13

Caleo

GrannyGravy13

Caleo my family home was in Spain…

Do you think that Spanish residents are immune to misinformation concerning the corrida?

I used to ride at the the breeding ranch at the top of my road.

That must have been lovely.

Yes it was we used to ride up into the Campo and be out most of the day.

A long lunch when the sun was at its highest.

Some of my happiest late teen/early twenties memories.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 13:44:42

GrannyGravy13

Caleo

GrannyGravy13

Caleo my family home was in Spain…

Do you think that Spanish residents are immune to misinformation concerning the corrida?

I used to ride at the the breeding ranch at the top of my road.

That must have been lovely.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 13:43:39

Caleo

Allira

BlueBelle

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

Alcohol can wreck marriages too. Should supermarkets, corner shop, post offices stop selling it?

Already they aren't allowed to sell alcohol to children.

Legal age UK for gambling is 18

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 13:41:11

Allira

BlueBelle

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

Alcohol can wreck marriages too. Should supermarkets, corner shop, post offices stop selling it?

Already they aren't allowed to sell alcohol to children.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Apr-26 13:39:24

Caleo

GrannyGravy13

Caleo my family home was in Spain…

Do you think that Spanish residents are immune to misinformation concerning the corrida?

I used to ride at the the breeding ranch at the top of my road.

rafichagran Mon 20-Apr-26 13:33:34

Bingo and the lottery is a form of gambling. Why should it be banned because a small percentage of the population don't have self control.
Alot of the population like a bet they gamble responsibly. Leave them to their pleasure.
I am sick of bowing to the minority. If these people can't be responsible with their gambling they would find something else to get into debt.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 13:12:21

GrannyGravy13

Caleo my family home was in Spain…

Do you think that Spanish residents are immune to misinformation concerning the corrida?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 20-Apr-26 12:50:55

Caleo my family home was in Spain…

Allira Mon 20-Apr-26 12:01:05

BlueBelle

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

Alcohol can wreck marriages too. Should supermarkets, corner shop, post offices stop selling it?

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 11:52:22

GrannyGravy13

Caleo

RosiesMawagain

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

The horses used are Andalusian and Lusitano, they are breed for their stamina.

Definitely not low value

I am not pro Bull Fighting.

Nonsense who told you that ? Picadors' horses are animals that are not fit for other sorts of work.

Even modern padding is not adequate when the bull lowers his head and gores them up their bellies.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 11:46:56

BlueBelle

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

I agree with BlueBelle on all the points she makes.

Sometimes a person just needs to have their consciousness raised.

Caleo Mon 20-Apr-26 11:44:18

David49

I don't suppose many on GN have been to a live Bullfight, we did in Madrid. The picador horses were well padded, I wouldnt know where they came from but they looked pretty dopey to me, well used to being barged around by bulls.

As for bullfighting, it was another experience, after they dispatched 5 bulls we got bored and called it a night, no doubt the bulls reappeared as beef burgers after a few days.

Bull riding in a rodeo is much more exciting entertainment, where the riders are at real risk, the bull wins every time.

The animal never wins when it is exploited for 'sport'.

BlueBelle Mon 20-Apr-26 07:36:10

Having seen gambling completely wrecking a marriage I m totally anti gambling but I doubt you ll ever stop it however I don’t think it should be on our screens at all.

David in my opinion anyone who puts money into the organisers pockets to watch an animal being tortured is as bad as the torturers. Rodeos are not wonderful either
You obviously have little feelings for animals.

David49 Mon 20-Apr-26 07:03:46

I don't suppose many on GN have been to a live Bullfight, we did in Madrid. The picador horses were well padded, I wouldnt know where they came from but they looked pretty dopey to me, well used to being barged around by bulls.

As for bullfighting, it was another experience, after they dispatched 5 bulls we got bored and called it a night, no doubt the bulls reappeared as beef burgers after a few days.

Bull riding in a rodeo is much more exciting entertainment, where the riders are at real risk, the bull wins every time.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 19-Apr-26 13:25:34

Caleo have you been to a Bull Fight and seen the Picadors and rejoneadores?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 19-Apr-26 13:14:58

Caleo

RosiesMawagain

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

The horses used are Andalusian and Lusitano, they are breed for their stamina.

Definitely not low value

I am not pro Bull Fighting.

Mollygo Sun 19-Apr-26 13:04:57

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

But does that mean it gives people pleasure?

Caleo Sun 19-Apr-26 11:20:52

RosiesMawagain

^Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting^

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.

In Spanish- type bull fighting low value worn- out horses are used by the picadors. Despite these horses wearing thick padding against the bulls' horns they are sometimes gored and disembowelled by the bull.

Caleo Sun 19-Apr-26 11:16:13

Allira

Caleo

Allira

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

You are so right. I did wonder what motivated me to post it on Gransnet. Short answers on Gransnet please.

That one of mine was short.

Re-reading it, it sounds rather blunt. Sorry!

No problem Allira. You were quite right and I was not the least offended.

David49 Sun 19-Apr-26 07:28:45

Rosie51

What a ridiculous comparator! Now if you said ban gambling and alcohol along with tobacco and vapes, then that would make more sense.

Actually what you've just said is Green Party policy is it not? Polanski wants to legalise all drugs and earn the tax revenue.

Im playing devils advocate, I say what I would like to happen, but acknowledge why it isn't going to happen.

As for drugs. their use is so widely condoned, attempts to stop the illegal trade is totally ineffective we are getting to the point where drugs cause so much crime, we are not willing to spend enough on policing, controlling them in the way alcohol is controlled needs to be seriously considered.

So either spend more to control the drugs or control them and tax them.

RosiesMawagain Sat 18-Apr-26 20:59:48

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting

I’m sure you didn’t mean that cruelty to low value horses in bull-fighting gives anybody pleasure?

Too many non-sequiturs for this thread to make any sense.