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News of Iran ceasefire

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David49 Wed 08-Apr-26 06:09:03

There is hope and oil prices plunge it seems Trumps invasion attack plans are on hold if Iran opens Hormuz, we can hope.

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:37:26

The US has disrupted Iran’s nuclear programme both last year and recently.
Iran still has a stockpile of enriched uranium which it’s unlikely to give up easily but research nuclear scientists have been killed apparently last year and so have nuclear sites.
If Iran decides it won’t give up the enriched uranium then the conflict may well go on at some point.

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:39:04

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:25:57
It will take weeks for backlog shipping to go through, and it will take even longer for a final peace deal to be agreed.

Exactly so too soon for anyone to be making claims of 'victory'.

Oreo 15.17-

So why has Hegseth threatened in the past few hours that 'Iran will give the US its enriched uranium or else the States will “take it out” if as you claim the US "have removed any nuclear threat....."

Is it the case the US thinks Iran still has enriched uranium and Trump stating it has all been removed is lying? Does Hegseth worry that continuing to make such genocide threats over the next 2 weeks is acting "sincerely"? Because Vance has stated in the past few hours a ceasefire deal is only possible if Iran come to the table "sincerely" 🤷‍♀️

Cossy Wed 08-Apr-26 15:40:09

AGAA4

The US have not been victorious however much they claim they have. They have not achieved their aims even if anyone knows what their aims were.
Very few will trust the US in future after this war. Trump has alienated all their allies apart from Israel.
It's the usual US blunder in the middle east.
Hard to understand people who believe a word Trump says .

Totally agree

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:41:08

It’s really important that Iran never gets far with having a nuclear deterrent as it would be likely to not use it as a deterrent but as a very real threat.The regime there isn’t a rational one but run by hardline mullahs who don’t care who lives or dies including their own citizens.

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:41:08

Oreo 15.37: "The US has disrupted Iran’s nuclear programme both last year and recently. Iran still has a stockpile of enriched uranium which it’s unlikely to give up easily but research nuclear scientists have been killed apparently last year and so have nuclear sites. If Iran decides it won’t give up the enriched uranium then the conflict may well go on at some point".

Difficult to fathom what 'victory' Trump has actually achieved then.....

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:42:10

I agree with Cossy and AGAA4.

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:42:11

I have answered your question above already LemonJam

Cossy Wed 08-Apr-26 15:43:57

Casdon

There is no victory for any country in this debacle. USA has lost the respect in the world that it once had, there will be more terrorist attacks as Jews will be targeted more by Muslim hardliners wherever are they are in the world, and Iran will dig in and will not shake off oppression for longer than it would have done before, that’s my opinion anyway.

And sadly I agree.

Menopauselbitch Wed 08-Apr-26 15:44:08

Whitewavemark2

What a relief for millions of people in Iran.

Let us hope Israel doesn’t scupper it.

Would that be the Persian people that are out on the streets celebrating Trump in Iran, London, America etc. or the thousands that have been murdered for wanting democracy from the Islamic regime?

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:44:20

Would anyone here not mind Iran achieving full nuclear capabilities?
Because unless they’re stopped they soon would have it.

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:44:52

Very few would ascribe acting "sincerely' to apply to Trump Hegseth or Vance so somewhat audacious, provocative and inflammatory to insist Iran comes to the table in a manner they do not demonstrate themselves.

Hard to know what is actually going to be achieved in the next 2 weeks in context of this fragile, conditional ceasefire 2 week 'truce' which is where I started earlier this morning..... sadly.

Cossy Wed 08-Apr-26 15:47:00

Oreo

It’s really important that Iran never gets far with having a nuclear deterrent as it would be likely to not use it as a deterrent but as a very real threat.The regime there isn’t a rational one but run by hardline mullahs who don’t care who lives or dies including their own citizens.

Yes agree, but frankly you could be describing Trump at this moment too.

The regime in Iran is appalling but we’ve heard all this “weapons of mass destruction” stuff before haven’t we? That too ended up in an illegal war!

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:47:51

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:44:20
"Would anyone here not mind Iran achieving full nuclear capabilities?
Because unless they’re stopped they soon would have it".

Diplomacy- diplomacy- diplomacy. Trump has worsened the situation with his illegal war, genocide threats, Vance's comments today Iran must act sincerely etc.

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:49:24

Plus Trump's war costs thus far for the US tax payers, alienation and age to his relationships with multiple allies, worsening his chances in mid term elections- I could go on......

LemonJam Wed 08-Apr-26 15:50:07

'damage' to relationships- typo

Casdon Wed 08-Apr-26 15:51:08

I think all three countries involved are currently equally untrustworthy. Nuclear weapons in any of their hands are therefore to be equally feared for those they perceive to be enemies.

Cossy Wed 08-Apr-26 15:51:14

Oreo

Would anyone here not mind Iran achieving full nuclear capabilities?
Because unless they’re stopped they soon would have it.

Personally, I would feel safer if ALL countries weren’t able harness nuclear capabilities for weapons, or indeed buy and sell “normal” weapons, but as it seems most of the worlds current powerful countries leaders are either liars or insane (or both), what is there we can do?

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:51:26

So hide heads in the sand and think they haven’t really got any enriched uranium or any wishes to become fully nuclear, is that what we should do Cossy ? Or wait until they have it, in which case it will be too late.
Remember this isn’t a normal country with a normal government it’s basically a terrorist run state.

Casdon Wed 08-Apr-26 15:53:01

Menopauselbitch

Whitewavemark2

What a relief for millions of people in Iran.

Let us hope Israel doesn’t scupper it.

Would that be the Persian people that are out on the streets celebrating Trump in Iran, London, America etc. or the thousands that have been murdered for wanting democracy from the Islamic regime?

For the second time today Menopauselbitch, not all Iranians are Persian!

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:53:56

LemonJam

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:44:20
"Would anyone here not mind Iran achieving full nuclear capabilities?
Because unless they’re stopped they soon would have it".

Diplomacy- diplomacy- diplomacy. Trump has worsened the situation with his illegal war, genocide threats, Vance's comments today Iran must act sincerely etc.

Again, I say that Iran isn’t a normal country with a normal government they’re Islamist extremists, and as such don’t think like a normal government would do with regards to diplomacy.

MibsXX Wed 08-Apr-26 15:55:58

Don't count your chickens just yet, remember the Ukraine/Russian ceasefire? Regardless, the oil barons in the US ( Trumps pals no doubt) have already made a killing fininancially, and continue to do so, thanks to his actions pushing the prices up.
And if some country had dared to take out the US leader, the US would HAVE to retaliate....I would not blame Iran one little bit if they decided to retaliate in kind.
Just WTF does Trump think he really is!

grannygranby Wed 08-Apr-26 15:56:02

Trump is making deals as he has always done, he is dealing with despots. He got a ceasefire. He is just president for a couple more years. Western democracies don’t have lifelong leaders and presidents like Iran, Russia, china et al. Be careful what you wish for. Israel too is a pluralist liberal democracy fighting for its survival. There are 53 Muslim countries just one Jewish one under severe threat. Antisemitism has not been as high since the holocaust. Jews have the right of a safe homeland in Israel which offers a home to any Jew anywhere something they didn’t have till after their mass extermination by Germany less than a hundred years ago. Never again , everyone swore and now antisemitism is rife. Remember over 6000 Palestinians from Gaza invaded a peaceful music festival in Israel and horrendously raped murdered tortured and took hostage over 1000 young innocents and vowing they would do it again.
No one believed Trump would destroy a civilisation. His reckless hyperbole is never followed through but it pales into Insignificance when you consider the erasing of the voice and agency of the female sex in Iran already tens of thousands of them slaughtered for protesting and daring to show their hair. This isn’t happening in a vacuum. I know what side I’m on as horrendous as the battle is. I’m tired of the BBC forever targeting the US and Israel for every misdemeanour completely overlooking the bigger free picture.

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:56:09

Casdon

I think all three countries involved are currently equally untrustworthy. Nuclear weapons in any of their hands are therefore to be equally feared for those they perceive to be enemies.

You’re wrong of course as only the Iranian regime are basically terrorists who also fund many other terrorists around the ME and the world.

Casdon Wed 08-Apr-26 15:58:25

No, I’m right. A country doesnt have to be a terrorist regime for it to have an untrustworthy government.

Oreo Wed 08-Apr-26 15:58:38

grannygranby

Trump is making deals as he has always done, he is dealing with despots. He got a ceasefire. He is just president for a couple more years. Western democracies don’t have lifelong leaders and presidents like Iran, Russia, china et al. Be careful what you wish for. Israel too is a pluralist liberal democracy fighting for its survival. There are 53 Muslim countries just one Jewish one under severe threat. Antisemitism has not been as high since the holocaust. Jews have the right of a safe homeland in Israel which offers a home to any Jew anywhere something they didn’t have till after their mass extermination by Germany less than a hundred years ago. Never again , everyone swore and now antisemitism is rife. Remember over 6000 Palestinians from Gaza invaded a peaceful music festival in Israel and horrendously raped murdered tortured and took hostage over 1000 young innocents and vowing they would do it again.
No one believed Trump would destroy a civilisation. His reckless hyperbole is never followed through but it pales into Insignificance when you consider the erasing of the voice and agency of the female sex in Iran already tens of thousands of them slaughtered for protesting and daring to show their hair. This isn’t happening in a vacuum. I know what side I’m on as horrendous as the battle is. I’m tired of the BBC forever targeting the US and Israel for every misdemeanour completely overlooking the bigger free picture.

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