Trump posts racist video of the Obamas

AGAA4

Trump seems to be going downhill very fast now.
He believes in white supremacy and this latest attack on the Obamas shows just how racist he is.
Trump as Potus has disgraced that role spectacularly.

I agree. Even Republicans are now getting pee’ed off by him.
He keeps pushing and pushing to see how far he can go and eventually he will be tipped right over the edge.

I imagine he just lost any black voters he had. Though why any would have voted for him completely escapes me.

Oreo

It does give it context, it was something supplied by a Rebublican Trump fan, it wasn’t only about Obama it about lots of Democrats.Biden was depicted as an ape, and he’s white so it’s nothing to do with race.
It’s typical that Trump would like Democrats to be portrayed as lower animals while he himself is presumably a lion, the king of the jungle.
I don’t like anything about Trump, not a single thing but this meme doesn’t mean it’s about race.

Oh, so this is how people justify racism.

I was wondering how it would happen

Wyllow, I love those raging grannies!
Re the image of monkeys and people of colour, I heard Floella Benjamin talk about having her skirt lifted in public, to see if she had a tail.

Summerlove

Oreo

It does give it context, it was something supplied by a Rebublican Trump fan, it wasn’t only about Obama it about lots of Democrats.Biden was depicted as an ape, and he’s white so it’s nothing to do with race.
It’s typical that Trump would like Democrats to be portrayed as lower animals while he himself is presumably a lion, the king of the jungle.
I don’t like anything about Trump, not a single thing but this meme doesn’t mean it’s about race.

Oh, so this is how people justify racism.

I was wondering how it would happen

So, how do you equate that with Biden appearing as an ape eating a banana? Have you noticed he’s a white man?

Summerlove

Oreo

It does give it context, it was something supplied by a Rebublican Trump fan, it wasn’t only about Obama it about lots of Democrats.Biden was depicted as an ape, and he’s white so it’s nothing to do with race.
It’s typical that Trump would like Democrats to be portrayed as lower animals while he himself is presumably a lion, the king of the jungle.
I don’t like anything about Trump, not a single thing but this meme doesn’t mean it’s about race.

Oh, so this is how people justify racism.

I was wondering how it would happen

I genuinely don't see how you can look at it and see it about being anything other than racism.

Trump didn’t make this but as it makes fun of various Democrats it was stupid of him to re show it on Truth Social.
But then he is pretty stupid so par for the course.
In the long list of his decisions this one comes in as the less worrying for the world.

Because Orio, a white man or woman being shown as an ape eating a banana has no historical links to being racist, whereas likening a person of colour to a monkey does.

That’s not on, regardless of what he thinks of former politicians.

Each animal depicted was I expect chosen for the characteristics of each person as thought of by whoever made it.
Monkeys can be troublesome, an ape a slower moving creature and both are used as insults ( think…you big ape! Or you cheeky monkeys!) If Biden had been black or mixed race too then I would have thought it was racism. As it is I think it was simply insulting.
I try not to rush to be a sheeple where cries of racism or anything else is mentioned.

How do I equate it? I don’t. The historical context (which I’m positive both the author of the video and Trump are well aware of) is completely different.

Can you actually not see that? Or are you just fighting your point? Because if you can’t, I’m actually slightly concerned for you.

MT62

That’s not on, regardless of what he thinks of former politicians.

I agree, he’s the President and shouldn’t be showing anything insulting about other politicians.

Summerlove

How do I equate it? I don’t. The historical context (which I’m positive both the author of the video and Trump are well aware of) is completely different.

Can you actually not see that? Or are you just fighting your point? Because if you can’t, I’m actually slightly concerned for you.

I’m giving you the courtesy of showing my reasoning on this subject.
Any personal attacks won’t be tolerated by me.

Its been taken down...now a "staffer" is blamed for writing this disgusting post...so Trump won't apologise...

I think he’s blaming the staffer for putting it up ( not writing it)

Oreo

‘I try not to rush to be a sheeple where cries of racism or anything else is mentioned.’

I am happy to be a sheeple if racism is being called out for what it is. The more people who become outraged by this the better. If it was antisemitic or Islamophobic I would feel the same. Racism is racism and must be met with as many people calling it out as possible. There are no medals for being an outlier or apologist, that doesn’t show how brave a person is to go against the crowd in a matter like this. Quite the opposite.

I just feel so sad for Obama and his wife and especially their children, I mean of course they have encountered racism before and know how racist Trump is but I doubt that stops it from hurting. And for the children to see their parents depicted like that, well, there are no words.

Well said, Fallingstar.

Who are the 'sheeple' here, Oreo? Is it behaving like a sheep to agree with others that racism is racism? And doesn't calling people who 'cry' racism 'sheeple' count as a personal attack against what I think is every other poster on this thread? You don't have to point a finger or name names to be personal. Attempting to cover one's back by pretending that personal comments more general just doesn't wash. Showing Biden as an ape does not detract from the racism any more than talking generally about 'sheeple' detracts from the fact that you are calling those who disagree with you names.

Trump's ideal American is a rich, white man. He is racist. Amongst other things.
How can anyone have any respect for Trump after this.

It's White Supremacy again. Remember when you had to be a WASP to get ahead in USA politics?

Well said doodledog.

Just for Oreo Obama has said in interviews that he is black.

theworriedwell

Oreo

I have no idea which he chooses to actually consider himself.
It’s a dilemma for all mixed race people isn’t it?
I have a Spanish friend who is much darker skinned than him.
He and his wife had privileged upbringings.If they had any sense they would just ignore silly animal memes, which am sure they did at the time.
There are lots of political jokes with politicians as animals, I think the cartoonist Peter Brookes did loads of them at one time.
Trump is an idiot but don’t worry about the small stuff, there’s plenty of big stuff to worry about.

Not a dilemma for the people I know. The Obamas might have had all sorts of privileges but the are also role models for other black people without their advantages.

theworriedwell Obamas might have had all sorts of privileges but the are also role models for other black people without their advantages.

It seems their privileges came through working hard, attending the very best schools. Obama was author of the Harvard Law Review, quite a clever scholar.

Obama is black , he identifies as black, his wife and children are black
Trump is a white suprematist. He no longer tries to hide it. Referring to the majority here who recognise racism under their noses as sheeple is a bit silly

Fallingstar

I imagine he just lost any black voters he had. Though why any would have voted for him completely escapes me.

Ditto the Latino demographic (his description, not mine). I imagine that ICE has put paid to any support that still existed there.