Trump posts racist video of the Obamas

Oreo

Obama is as much white as black isn’t he?
As Biden is white and was depicted as an ape then I wouldn’t be worried about a silly meme if I were him.
Just as I’m Jewish but wouldn’t worry about any stupid rat memes or graffiti.

Do you speak for all Jewish people, I wonder?

Very much doubt it, SueDonim.

I’m pretty certain my Jewish DIL and grandchildren would take a differing view, that’s for sure.

Surely you understand, Oreo, that white man Joe Biden depicted as an ape eating a banana has completely different connotations to black Barrack and Michelle Obama being portrayed as apes? It’s one of the oldest, most well known racist tropes, along with monkey noises at football matches, etc.
Surely, you know that?

SueDonim

I’m pretty certain my Jewish DIL and grandchildren would take a differing view, that’s for sure.

They would be very foolish indeed to try to dismiss Trump’s racism. That fight for all minorities is never ending, and we seem to have entered a period where people seem to think it is acceptable to say quite blatant and unacceptable racist language.

So having initially defended this and called for an end to "fake outrage" the White House is now claiming that although Trump was responsible for the section about fraud in the 2020 election, someone else added the video without his knowledge!!!

I'm just posting another a little more light hearted take on it all by one of the Raging Grannies groups (there are a number round the states)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUtwp6j6P_0&list=RDnUtwp6j6P_0&start_radio=1

I do like them!

I am Jewish and having had family who didn’t make it after being sent to Treblinka I would find antisemitic pictures of rats or graffiti highly offensive.
As would other family members.

It isn’t just the blatant racism, it is the innuendo which we all recognise as racist, but when challenged the nasty perpetrator hasn’t the guts to admit his/her racist rhetoric, but denies that that is what it meant.

Equally showing any black person as an ape is equally offensive.
There really are no possible excuses.

Whitewavemark2

It isn’t just the blatant racism, it is the innuendo which we all recognise as racist, but when challenged the nasty perpetrator hasn’t the guts to admit his/her racist rhetoric, but denies that that is what it meant.

This is Trump’s MO he says or does something despicable and then either backtracks or denies it. Is similar to abuse inasmuch as the perpetrator does something terrible then denies it happened and gaslights the victim or backs off until the next time.
The man probably enjoys torturing those he targets, is a sadist.

SueDonim

Oreo

Obama is as much white as black isn’t he?
As Biden is white and was depicted as an ape then I wouldn’t be worried about a silly meme if I were him.
Just as I’m Jewish but wouldn’t worry about any stupid rat memes or graffiti.

Do you speak for all Jewish people, I wonder?

Of course not, which is why I used the word ‘I’

Yes, he is a sadist, and so are ones who enable him.

Fallingstar

Whitewavemark2

It isn’t just the blatant racism, it is the innuendo which we all recognise as racist, but when challenged the nasty perpetrator hasn’t the guts to admit his/her racist rhetoric, but denies that that is what it meant.

This is Trump’s MO he says or does something despicable and then either backtracks or denies it. Is similar to abuse inasmuch as the perpetrator does something terrible then denies it happened and gaslights the victim or backs off until the next time.
The man probably enjoys torturing those he targets, is a sadist.

Yes, this is his MO.
He knows full well that something, once seen, read or heard, cannot be unseen or forgotten.

Oreo

I have no idea which he chooses to actually consider himself.
It’s a dilemma for all mixed race people isn’t it?
I have a Spanish friend who is much darker skinned than him.
He and his wife had privileged upbringings.If they had any sense they would just ignore silly animal memes, which am sure they did at the time.
There are lots of political jokes with politicians as animals, I think the cartoonist Peter Brookes did loads of them at one time.
Trump is an idiot but don’t worry about the small stuff, there’s plenty of big stuff to worry about.

Not a dilemma for the people I know. The Obamas might have had all sorts of privileges but the are also role models for other black people without their advantages.

Fallingstar

I am Jewish and having had family who didn’t make it after being sent to Treblinka I would find antisemitic pictures of rats or graffiti highly offensive.
As would other family members.

No decent person should even think of offending you like that.

theworriedwell

Oreo

I have no idea which he chooses to actually consider himself.
It’s a dilemma for all mixed race people isn’t it?
I have a Spanish friend who is much darker skinned than him.
He and his wife had privileged upbringings.If they had any sense they would just ignore silly animal memes, which am sure they did at the time.
There are lots of political jokes with politicians as animals, I think the cartoonist Peter Brookes did loads of them at one time.
Trump is an idiot but don’t worry about the small stuff, there’s plenty of big stuff to worry about.

Not a dilemma for the people I know. The Obamas might have had all sorts of privileges but the are also role models for other black people without their advantages.

It will be a wonderful role model and something in the US’s favour if a black American who wasn’t from a privileged background ever became the President.Or a woman, of any colour.

Oreo

theworriedwell

Oreo

I have no idea which he chooses to actually consider himself.
It’s a dilemma for all mixed race people isn’t it?
I have a Spanish friend who is much darker skinned than him.
He and his wife had privileged upbringings.If they had any sense they would just ignore silly animal memes, which am sure they did at the time.
There are lots of political jokes with politicians as animals, I think the cartoonist Peter Brookes did loads of them at one time.
Trump is an idiot but don’t worry about the small stuff, there’s plenty of big stuff to worry about.

Not a dilemma for the people I know. The Obamas might have had all sorts of privileges but the are also role models for other black people without their advantages.

It will be a wonderful role model and something in the US’s favour if a black American who wasn’t from a privileged background ever became the President.Or a woman, of any colour.

Obama wasn't from a privileged background. Not an impoverished one but he is from a single-parent family, certainly not wealthy.

Or a woman, of any colour.

It is surprising, to me anyway, that a supposedly advanced civilisation like the USA has never had a woman President.

Obama was from the American middle classes, which to many people especially black and mixed race was a privileged lifestyle.His mother was an anthropologist and his father I think an economist.
Not as traditionally wealthy as many past Presidents but became very wealthy from his own profession and his wife also.You have to be, to run for President it’s a great flaw in their politics.

Allira

^Or a woman, of any colour.^

It is surprising, to me anyway, that a supposedly advanced civilisation like the USA has never had a woman President.

It shows that ( in case anyone needs reminding) that they aren’t as socially advanced as we are.

I think that is likely true Oreo but ssshh you’re not meant to say it ! 🙃

nanna8

I think that is likely true Oreo but ssshh you’re not meant to say it ! 🙃

😁
I’m not meant to say a lot of things but I do anyway.

Trump seems to be going downhill very fast now.
He believes in white supremacy and this latest attack on the Obamas shows just how racist he is.
Trump as Potus has disgraced that role spectacularly.

Oreo

Allira

Or a woman, of any colour.

It is surprising, to me anyway, that a supposedly advanced civilisation like the USA has never had a woman President.

It shows that ( in case anyone needs reminding) that they aren’t as socially advanced as we are.

Or misogyny reigns supreme in the USA.

A woman should know her place and that is as a decorative First Lady, carrying out good works.