ULEZ raised over £224m last year

I hope there is total clarity about how this money is spent. Preferably on direct anti pollution schemes in the areas where the fines were incurred.

I would definitely like to see where this money has gone…

Well, according to Chronicle Live (which isn't the most reliable of sources }

Where does the Newcastle Clean Air Zone money go?
The law states that councils can not use the money raised as a general revenue stream. It is ringfenced to be spent on transport policies which will contribute to improving the air quality in the city centre.

Newcastle and Gateshead's councils say "Under the Transport Act 2000, the net proceeds of any charging schemes made under the Act, including a Clean Air Zone, can only be used by a local authority for the purpose of helping towards the delivery of local transport policies. This can include the promotion of cycling and walking and other sustainable transport measures."

I assume this applies across the UK

It will be v hard on the fined drivers if all the money goes on more cycle lanes which councils are always tempted to do. Improving public transport is just as important.

Andy Burnham persuaded the government to defer a ULEZ scheme in his area. Possibly a better political think than many.

If there was a vote on clean air or net zero then people would vote against it. Then we’d see an end to the climate crisis wouldn’t we ? Just because things are unpopular doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do them.

It's a cash cow, in London, to try and prop up the finances of TFL and Crossrail.🙄

So what if it’s a money making system. People don’t have a god given right to drive around in gas guzzling and polluting vehicles. Public transport has to be financed. TfL was dumped on royally by the government so have to raise money. London is the only western capital city where the government don’t subsidise the transport system.

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Andy Burnham persuaded the government to defer a ULEZ scheme in his area. Possibly a better political think than many.

Andy Burnham didn't persuade the Government to defer the ULEZ scheme it was nothing to do with the Government, Burnham (Labour) wanted the money making ULEZ scheme and wanted it extended to cover not just the city centre but other areas (just like London) it was his idea as Major of Manchester he wasted thousands and thousands of pounds putting all the cameras and signage up and there was a big campaign here to stop it, he actually became a hate figure to some. Its's not been stopped just under review

Newcastle has one of the worst traffic management systems I have seen, I commute to Newcastle. I am not sure what they could do to make it worse.

224 million? That's welcome, as, DiamondLily - it's actually spent on improving London's public transport, such as better bus services, especially in the outer zones. Surely, nobody objects to cleaner air for our grandchildren?

Exactly.

The people of Uxbridge voted for the Tories to punish the Labour Mayor for expanding the ULEZ ..... because the Labour Mayor was told to expand ULEZ

(originally designed by Boris Johnson) .... BY THE TORY GOVERNMENT Dept of Transport Secretary Grant Shapps

Andy Burnam is revoluionising the buses in Manchester, making cycling safer and fares cheaper. There is some disruption at the moment but the new bus routes look sensible and should remove a lot of the need to drive into the city.

Fares on buses are £2 all over the country at the moment curtesy of a government scheme nothing to do with Burnham.

I feel very sorry for people who have to use their vehicle - tradespeople for instance. It’s a very big expense. I don’t know if disabled people using a car because they can’t manage public transport have an exemption.
Out in the sticks we haven’t a hope of any public transport but I appreciate it’s our choice to live here, though some are now too old to reasonably be expected to move.

Again, it is a political choice to have cut down public transport to rural areas. Some countries choose to make every single rural village accessible by subsidised train or bus.

I remember when the (Labour run) GLC brought in the "Fares Fair" system in 1981. Unfortunately it was knocked on the head by the leader of Bromley Council taken the GLC to court on the grounds that the underground didn't go as far as Bromley which was therefore subisiding it. Wrong, when you consider the numbers of commuters from Bromley into the GLC area.

Just watched a feature on taxis "demonstrating" in Manchester.
Pre covid we spent a few days in Seville. There the taxis operating in the city centre were all hybrids. This meant that one could sit outside a cafe on the pavement with taxis around the square but no pollution. If Spain can do it, why not the UK?

Germanshepherdsmum

I feel very sorry for people who have to use their vehicle - tradespeople for instance. It’s a very big expense. I don’t know if disabled people using a car because they can’t manage public transport have an exemption.
Out in the sticks we haven’t a hope of any public transport but I appreciate it’s our choice to live here, though some are now too old to reasonably be expected to move.

CPRE is campaigning for reliable and regular bus services in rural communities.

Petition to sign here:
takeaction.cpre.org.uk/page/74256/petition/1?locale=en-GB

Without some curb on emissions there’s not a very bright future for our grandchildren, but we squeal when measures are brought in to curb it.

The problem as I see it is that poorer people and businesses are hit hardest by the restrictions, and therefore the government will have to invest in enabling the purchase of more sustainable vehicles, and importantly increase and subside public transport.

Germanshepherdsmum

I feel very sorry for people who have to use their vehicle - tradespeople for instance. It’s a very big expense. I don’t know if disabled people using a car because they can’t manage public transport have an exemption.
Out in the sticks we haven’t a hope of any public transport but I appreciate it’s our choice to live here, though some are now too old to reasonably be expected to move.

But they don't have to pay the emissions charge if their vehicles conform to the correct criteria. Cars registered after 2005 and diesel vehicles registered after 2015.

A decent scrappage scheme would be a great help for those with older vehicles which should be replaced. It seems to me that it comes under the heading of a preventative public health measure...

Does London have a congestion charge as well?

MaizieD

Germanshepherdsmum

I feel very sorry for people who have to use their vehicle - tradespeople for instance. It’s a very big expense. I don’t know if disabled people using a car because they can’t manage public transport have an exemption.
Out in the sticks we haven’t a hope of any public transport but I appreciate it’s our choice to live here, though some are now too old to reasonably be expected to move.

But they don't have to pay the emissions charge if their vehicles conform to the correct criteria. Cars registered after 2005 and diesel vehicles registered after 2015.

A decent scrappage scheme would be a great help for those with older vehicles which should be replaced. It seems to me that it comes under the heading of a preventative public health measure...

Does London have a congestion charge as well?

Congestion Charge for Central London is £15 daily between 7am -6pm Monday to Friday and between 12 noon and 6pm Saturday and Sunday.

We have absorbed this for the last few years, but looking forward to charging customers if their delivery is not cost effective.

Should be looking forwards not looking forward 😡