Asylum seekers unhappy at Stratford- upon- Avon Hotel

It’s the Daily Mail’s job to hunt out those who are dissatisfied with their treatment and publish it. They make money by doing that and they know what they publish will be spread, even by those who don’t believe it. QED.
All media including newspapers, know they’ll get more attention by publishing things that they think others are getting wrong.
It’s easy to say what should be happening; what the government should be doing and what the media shouldn’t
I watched a program about people who were actually doing something for refugees/asylum seekers.
Other than dealing with language problems of new arrivals in school, I’m not really doing anything.
What are GN’s doing?

Forsythia

I’ve said this before on here and been attacked by the usual suspects but asylum seekers and migrants are big business. How many of these posting in here in favour are housing refugees in their own home or local area? Lawyers, so called charities like Care for Calais, migrant support groups, interpreters, the hotel chains who’ve sold out etc etc ….. all these would no longer be needed if abuse of the system was clamped down on.
As for the ones in the Daily Mail saying they want a big house, trampoline in the garden etc it’s the sense of entitlement that angers those of us who do not support unfettered immigration into this country.
If that makes me an unfeeling racist according to Volver, MaizieD and their supporters I really do not care!

It's quite simple Forsythia. If there was a clear, competent, speedy assessment process. If asylum seekers were permitted to work whilst their application was processed there wouldn't be a problem. They would be out at work and paying taxes.

As for wanting a house with a trampoline in the garden I thought that was the sort of migrant we wanted. Ones with aspirations who will contribute to the economy and society. Like the family of our own dear PM

It's quite simple Forsythia.

You would think so, wouldn't you? But it appears to be completely baffling to some posters...

Sorry to be snippy this morning, but some of the posts on here are just vile...

Not baffling to me MaizieD. How many have you housed as a matter of interest? How many do you have interaction with day to day? Never a true picture emerges does it. Is your job dependant on the continued client base? What drives you to want these migrants, genuine or otherwise, in this country?

Wonder how many properties could be built with the millions being spent daily on hotel accommodation?

They could then be used to house asylum seekers and people on the housing lists.

Forsythia

Not baffling to me MaizieD. How many have you housed as a matter of interest? How many do you have interaction with day to day? Never a true picture emerges does it. Is your job dependant on the continued client base? What drives you to want these migrants, genuine or otherwise, in this country?

Humanity?

Calendargirl

Wonder how many properties could be built with the millions being spent daily on hotel accommodation?

They could then be used to house asylum seekers and people on the housing lists.

Many fewer than could be built with the money Michele Mone ran off with.

Glorianny

Forsythia

I’ve said this before on here and been attacked by the usual suspects but asylum seekers and migrants are big business. How many of these posting in here in favour are housing refugees in their own home or local area? Lawyers, so called charities like Care for Calais, migrant support groups, interpreters, the hotel chains who’ve sold out etc etc ….. all these would no longer be needed if abuse of the system was clamped down on.
As for the ones in the Daily Mail saying they want a big house, trampoline in the garden etc it’s the sense of entitlement that angers those of us who do not support unfettered immigration into this country.
If that makes me an unfeeling racist according to Volver, MaizieD and their supporters I really do not care!

It's quite simple Forsythia. If there was a clear, competent, speedy assessment process. If asylum seekers were permitted to work whilst their application was processed there wouldn't be a problem. They would be out at work and paying taxes.

As for wanting a house with a trampoline in the garden I thought that was the sort of migrant we wanted. Ones with aspirations who will contribute to the economy and society. Like the family of our own dear PM

I agree with you Glorianny. They should all be working, it should be compulsory. No ifs or buts about it. Only last night on Countryfile there were salad growers in Lee complaining they couldn’t get workers, will have to shut down etc. these individuals should all be working and contributing, paid or voluntarily while they are housed and fed in the UK.

As for Rishi Sunak’s kids I’ve not any idea if they own a trampoline or not but if they do he would have paid for it through his or his wife’s earnings. He isn’t demanding it as a right and that others should be paying for along with a big house to put it in, this was quoted by the migrant interviewed.

I often agree with a lot of your comments. On this, we must politely accept we disagree.

You know they're not allowed to work by the government, right? You know its not their fault? Do you blame the government?

volver3

Forsythia

Not baffling to me MaizieD. How many have you housed as a matter of interest? How many do you have interaction with day to day? Never a true picture emerges does it. Is your job dependant on the continued client base? What drives you to want these migrants, genuine or otherwise, in this country?

Humanity?

How many have you housed Volver? How often do you interact with them on a daily basis? How would you feel if you had a daughter accosted by these men, not used to our way of life, bored stiff with nothing to do? Let’s have a true picture from you too. Humanity has nothing to do with it. Why not give up your home to migrants and feel even more virtuous while you do so.
As for Michelle Mone, she’s another self made woman who earned her own money through hard work. I’m sure you’ll have a problem with that too. As to whether she has a criminal intent and run off with money as you claim, she will be prosecuted.

Oh no. I can take a lot but I can't take anybody telling that Mone is really OK and we should leave her alone. 🤪

And "how many have you housed?" isn't the killer blow you think it is. 🤣

How many ex-servicemen and homeless people do you house?

I know nothing about Michelle Mone. I’d wait until a true and honest picture emerges. I would take anything you say as gospel.

How many ex servicemen and homeless do you house Volver? Let’s hear it.

Wouldn’t take anything you say as gospel.

Forsythia

I know nothing about Michelle Mone. I’d wait until a true and honest picture emerges. I would take anything you say as gospel.

How many ex servicemen and homeless do you house Volver? Let’s hear it.

Isn’t it the responsibility of governments to take care of ex servicemen and the homeless? They did provide accommodation for the homeless at the start of the pandemic which I hoped would continue but they seem to have forgotten about them again.

I didn’t bring that up MayBee. You’d better ask Volver why she did.

I know nothing about Michelle Mone.

Well that's clear enough.

MayBee70

Forsythia

I know nothing about Michelle Mone. I’d wait until a true and honest picture emerges. I would take anything you say as gospel.

How many ex servicemen and homeless do you house Volver? Let’s hear it.

Isn’t it the responsibility of governments to take care of ex servicemen and the homeless? They did provide accommodation for the homeless at the start of the pandemic which I hoped would continue but they seem to have forgotten about them again.

Its the responsibility of the government to look after asylum seekers too. Its just that some people don't like that fact.

volver3

DiamondLily

According to reports out today, the government are giving police new powers to move on (and hassle), our homeless/rough sleepers, under this latest new anti-social behaviour crackdown.

If anyone is unhappy in a hotel, perhaps they could just swap with someone that's stuck in a shop doorway. I'm sure some of them would welcome being in a hotel.🙄

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/26/rishi-sunak-get-tough-anti-social-behaviour/

So all these homeless people that we could be spending money on and putting up in hotels - the government has decided to hassle them have they? Give them a hard time?

When will people see that the reason we have homeless people on the street and lack of services isn't that the money's being spent on asylum seekers, its that the government doesn't want to help them?

Well, it's that never ending conflict. Everywhere, people are moaning about the amount of taxes we are now paying (highest rates since the 1950's, I think), coupled with the rocketing cost of living.

In order to put money into building much more social housing, or pay more in Housing benefit for overpriced private rentals, we would need to raise taxes still further.😗

There was billions wasted during the pandemic, but that money has gone - it will never come back.

The reality is that the government probably won't raise taxes again, before the election, so there still won't be the house building we need.

So, I still don't know what the answer is as it is becoming untenable with so many in inadequate temporary housing or homeless.

A government or party viewing up the next election will always play to what public opinion seems to be - and the majority (in most polls), support slashing/stopping migrants, especially those coming over the Channel.

Even Labour have said they will tighten up on it.

volver3

MayBee70

Forsythia

I know nothing about Michelle Mone. I’d wait until a true and honest picture emerges. I would take anything you say as gospel.

How many ex servicemen and homeless do you house Volver? Let’s hear it.

Isn’t it the responsibility of governments to take care of ex servicemen and the homeless? They did provide accommodation for the homeless at the start of the pandemic which I hoped would continue but they seem to have forgotten about them again.

Its the responsibility of the government to look after asylum seekers too. Its just that some people don't like that fact.

Precisely….

Most want to work. Let them while their applications are being processed. Can you imagine being confined by the limits of a tiny budget with nothing to do? Day after day.

Well, the government say that the hotel stays are due to end in the next week or so, and the migrants will be moved/placed in disused army/services barracks.

One council has sought an injunction to prevent any being sent to their area:

And, therein lies the problem.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/26/council-takes-legal-action-to-stop-asylum-seekers-being-sent-to-essex-airfield

Should something be done about all the empty properties in this country?

Quokka

Most want to work. Let them while their applications are being processed. Can you imagine being confined by the limits of a tiny budget with nothing to do? Day after day.

It’s a recipe for trouble.

When my British born cousin fled an abusive and coercive marriage in the US and came home with her 4 children, she also had to stay in a hotel for months and months before she was rehoused. She wasn't overly happy but she was relieved that she had a roof over her head, a school for the children and was safe. If your alternative is being shot at, being bombed, being executed for having the wrong sexuality or other such awful, I would think that being safe would be your first priority. However, I do think it is incumbent on us to speed up the system because living in cramped conditions isn't easy when you are in the best of mental health.

I also think this business of being unable to work is a crying shame and very short sighted. My sister's Turkish husband, who originally had come over as an au pair and talked my sister into marrying him, when he applied for leave to stay was not able to legally work for a couple of years. However, he found plenty of work in the black market amongst the Turkish Community until he was allowed to stay.