Asylum seekers unhappy at Stratford- upon- Avon Hotel

Katie59

JaneJudge

Or building new social housing in Stratford as it had been overwhelmed with second homes that are AirBNBs etc that are left empty a lot of the time?

Empty towns need a low paid flexible work force after all

Actually social housing is reasonably good in Stratford, my son got a brand new house after only 2 months on the waiting list, other areas are worse I’m sure.
The NHS is dire, emergencies only, a shadow of 5 yrs ago GP services barely exist.

Jeez, in London and part of the SE, they are looking at about 10 years on a waiting list, if they ever get to the top ....😳

Glad that it worked for your family though.😉

Katie59

JaneJudge

Same here shinamae but I’m glad Katie’s son had a good experience ❤️

There are a lot of houses being built in this area and a lot of social housing being incorporated, DS and his wife are both working but cannot afford a mortgage, they can however afford a fair rent on a nice 2 bed semi, that I’m sure made a difference, the housing association has to balance its books.
We did stay over dog sitting for a few days, quality is pretty good, small garden but adequate for young kids.

Very well done to your son.(my next door neighbours.are in local authority house and I was surprised how much rent they pay for three bedroom, and I think it’s gone up recently again, obviously cheaper than private rented, but still not cheap like council housing used to be)
My son is a bricklayer and they work mainly on Estates at the moment and a proportion of new houses built has to be social housing, but it doesn’t seem to touch the sides in this area of North Devon..
This is predominantly a council estate and I was lucky enough to be able to buy my house, but recently they knocked a lot of prefabs down and honestly the houses built to replace them,look like Lego houses and I don’t think they’ll last very long at all.. my house was built in the 50s, so built “proper”🤓

JaneJudge

Same here shinamae but I’m glad Katie’s son had a good experience ❤️

There are a lot of houses being built in this area and a lot of social housing being incorporated, DS and his wife are both working but cannot afford a mortgage, they can however afford a fair rent on a nice 2 bed semi, that I’m sure made a difference, the housing association has to balance its books.
We did stay over dog sitting for a few days, quality is pretty good, small garden but adequate for young kids.

Same here shinamae but I’m glad Katie’s son had a good experience ❤️

Katie59

JaneJudge

Or building new social housing in Stratford as it had been overwhelmed with second homes that are AirBNBs etc that are left empty a lot of the time?

Empty towns need a low paid flexible work force after all

Actually social housing is reasonably good in Stratford, my son got a brand new house after only 2 months on the waiting list, other areas are worse I’m sure.
The NHS is dire, emergencies only, a shadow of 5 yrs ago GP services barely exist.

Only Two months on the waiting list before he gets a house 😲that is absolutely unheard of in this area. People are on the waiting list for years and often put in unsuitable accommodation (B&B)even when they have small children…

Sunak is going to be grilled about all of this by the liaison committee this afternoon.

JaneJudge

Or building new social housing in Stratford as it had been overwhelmed with second homes that are AirBNBs etc that are left empty a lot of the time?

Empty towns need a low paid flexible work force after all

Actually social housing is reasonably good in Stratford, my son got a brand new house after only 2 months on the waiting list, other areas are worse I’m sure.
The NHS is dire, emergencies only, a shadow of 5 yrs ago GP services barely exist.

Katie59

MayBee70

£6 million a day is a very small amount when it comes to the economy of a country. Billions were lost buying useless PPE. And Kwartengs budget probably lost billions too. The government issue figures like that because they know people will react to it. And it’s £6 million a day because they aren’t dealing with the problem properly. Anyway, I thought brexit was all about solving it. I mean, we’ve taken back control, haven’t we?

It’s £6m a day that could be spent on the NHS.

There is no reason why £6million a day can't be spent on the NHS. Government just has to authorise payment of the bills. It's their political will alone that is stopping them, nothing to do with the money. They managed to create and spend £billions on covid at no detriment at all to the country.

Or building new social housing in Stratford as it had been overwhelmed with second homes that are AirBNBs etc that are left empty a lot of the time?

Empty towns need a low paid flexible work force after all

MayBee70

£6 million a day is a very small amount when it comes to the economy of a country. Billions were lost buying useless PPE. And Kwartengs budget probably lost billions too. The government issue figures like that because they know people will react to it. And it’s £6 million a day because they aren’t dealing with the problem properly. Anyway, I thought brexit was all about solving it. I mean, we’ve taken back control, haven’t we?

It’s £6m a day that could be spent on the NHS.

£6 million a day is a very small amount when it comes to the economy of a country. Billions were lost buying useless PPE. And Kwartengs budget probably lost billions too. The government issue figures like that because they know people will react to it. And it’s £6 million a day because they aren’t dealing with the problem properly. Anyway, I thought brexit was all about solving it. I mean, we’ve taken back control, haven’t we?

MayBee70

anna7

What stats Volver? The stats I've seen say 80 to 90% of asylum seekers are young males. I am not against genuine asylum seekers by the way but I do think it's complicated subject and I understand that people have genuine concerns

I think we have to acknowledge that there is a problem. But what is wrong is the way that the government are trying to make the problem sound worse than it is and use it as a reason why the country is in such a mess both socially and economically. The reason for that being that it has been badly run for the past decade or so.

Most of us would say £6m a day was a problem that needed addressing.

anna7

What stats Volver? The stats I've seen say 80 to 90% of asylum seekers are young males. I am not against genuine asylum seekers by the way but I do think it's complicated subject and I understand that people have genuine concerns

I think we have to acknowledge that there is a problem. But what is wrong is the way that the government are trying to make the problem sound worse than it is and use it as a reason why the country is in such a mess both socially and economically. The reason for that being that it has been badly run for the past decade or so.

Of course I understand why it is predominantly young men that seek asylum. That it not what Volver said.

**08volver3

Biscuitmuncher

Glorianny but it's just young men coming now

It's not though

I thought of linking to the stats, but what's the point? You'll just ignore them.

Yes my grandson working 6 days a week would like a home too.

Glorianny
the war in Spain
Did you know the charity, Plan was set up because of those children.

The reason you see more men in these hotels is because the women and children are housed quickly and their checks are done quicker. The men have always been processed more slowly.

MaizieD

anna7

What stats Volver? The stats I've seen say 80 to 90% of asylum seekers are young males. I am not against genuine asylum seekers by the way but I do think it's complicated subject and I understand that people have genuine concerns

So, who is best fitted to make what can be a very dangerous journey of perhaps 1,000s of miles, not to ,mention probably being in more danger in their native country, a fit young man, a woman with young children, or an elderly man or woman? And which of these is the most likely to eventually get a job to enable them to find a home and bring over their family?

It's pretty obvious, isn't it, why they are predominantly young men?

Thanks MaizieD, I was about to make the same comments but instead I’ll support yours. I wonder if those ‘sone posters’ might accuse us of being a clique, or worse.
I’d like to stress I don’t ‘know’ `MaizieD but I fully support these comments

In an art gallery in Berlin a couple of years ago, before the expansion of boat people attempting to find safety. One refugee from Syria had charted his journey as a piece of art. He was 17 when his extended family invested all their money in him. The aim was for him to reach the UK where they have settled relatives. Once established, he’d apply for his parents/siblings to join him. The story of fear, terror, exploitation, set backs and determination was extremely moving.

anna7

What stats Volver? The stats I've seen say 80 to 90% of asylum seekers are young males. I am not against genuine asylum seekers by the way but I do think it's complicated subject and I understand that people have genuine concerns

So, who is best fitted to make what can be a very dangerous journey of perhaps 1,000s of miles, not to ,mention probably being in more danger in their native country, a fit young man, a woman with young children, or an elderly man or woman? And which of these is the most likely to eventually get a job to enable them to find a home and bring over their family?

It's pretty obvious, isn't it, why they are predominantly young men?

So it’s ok for people to come here to earn more money but not escape being blown up or executed for being gay or forced to join ISIS etc?

I have no problem with economic migrants. We need more workers of all kinds and flying them to Rwanda is barmy. Asylum seekers for whatever reason should be permitted to work. If they demonstrate the ability to get to the UK despite all the obstacles they are likely to prove valuable citizens (unlike some Tory MPs recently in the news).

anna7

What stats Volver? The stats I've seen say 80 to 90% of asylum seekers are young males. I am not against genuine asylum seekers by the way but I do think it's complicated subject and I understand that people have genuine concerns

Looking forward to seeing the stats V3.

So which party decided it was a good idea to sell council houses and not replace them with more council houses?

It is disgusting, Nightsky2, and gives landlords a bad name. I get so furious with this sort of thing because as a Landlady, I only charge the LA rate which is way below the market rate and I will still do what I can to help our tenants. Due to the way the house is wired, only one person gets the energy payment, so I offset another lot of energy payment against their bill so they wouldn't lose out. I am looking at smart metres for each tenant so they can save money that way. I feel we have an obligation to be as fair as we possibly can be and, as such, our tenants appreciate us so look after their living accommodation.

MayBee70

They’re not looking for an easier life unless you count not being threatened by war an easy life. They want to work and we have this workforce unable to do so because of the inefficiency of the government departments responsible for processing them. It’s also the fault of the government that there isn’t enough housing for people or that there are unscrupulous landlords making people live in unhealthy conditions. I rather suspect that the government put them in hotels in very prominent places because it makes it easier for them to make scapegoats out of them. Turkey have taken in nearly 4 million refugees in the time that we’ve taken in 54,000. Yes, there is a problem but nowhere near the problem that it’s being made out to be because this government are using these people as scapegoats. Covid,asylum seekers, Ukraine, they’re all a smokescreen for years of mismanagement by successive governments that only care for one thing and that’s being in power for the sake of it.

So it’s the governments fault if someone buys 3 council houses and converts them into 6 rooms with one tiny shower room with loo and charges nearly £1000 each per month. I wonder why the landlord didn’t want to be interviewed!.

“What’s gone wrong with our housing”.
Panorama tonight BBC 1 at 8pm.