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Bird table...... birds avoiding it....

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Shinamae Sun 06-Dec-20 11:36:58

I have two bird tables, one in my front garden that used to be in my back garden but moved to the front and is used a lot by sparrows and only sparrows, and next doors cat likes to get on it and eat whatever I put out but this does not deter the birds!!About three months ago I bought another bird table to put out the back garden and since then I’ve not had one bird on it I know that because I know what I put out and it’s just going rotten so I’ve replaced it with just one fat ball and still nothing, When The one that is now out the front was out the back it used to get quite a lot of activity on it so I really don’t understand what’s going on. Hope you can understand this as it seems a bit muddled even to me have enclosed pictures of the front garden bird table which has got the fat ball feeder as well and the back garden one. Hope this is the right thread to post on!

Mapleleaf Sun 06-Dec-20 21:53:56

We've had to take all our bird food away this week as a rat appeared and was tucking into the bird food with gusto, and almost laughing at us!! We've put a bait station down and contacted the council as a rat is definitely not welcome. Sorry to not be feeding the birds but a rat in the garden is a definite no no - where's there's one there will be more...

Callistemon Sun 06-Dec-20 21:53:57

I found a fat ball half buried in one of my garden pots.
It was not one of our fatballs so the squirrel must have carried it from another garden.
Sorry Sammy, it's in the food recycling bin.

kittylester Sun 06-Dec-20 21:54:11

Isnt it funny? I have to keep rebuying fat balls and table seed but the sunflower hearts, Niger seeds and nuts are untouched. The best things at the moment though are the few remaining crab apples and the pyrocanthas on which we get lots of blackbirds!

merlotgran Sun 06-Dec-20 21:55:34

grannyqueenie

My bird table seems to be just for decoration apart from the visiting sparrowhawk last week! I’ve begun using sunflower seeds in the feeders which hang on the tree and now have hoards of goldfinches visiting which is lovely and very entertaining too But the mess underneath is awful, it’s ruining the grass. Having had field mice in the garage recently I’m worried it’ll attract rats. Any ideas on how to solve the problem?

Wow! What a great pic of a sparrowhawk.

Don't worry about the grass. It will grow back. Feeding birds is far more important.

Callistemon Sun 06-Dec-20 21:55:37

I had to take all the sunflower seeds off the sunflower heads as the birds wouldn't touch them.
They did manage to dehusk them.

mancgirl Sun 06-Dec-20 22:42:15

Given me food for thought. If I hang bird food from a Holly Bush will it stop the thieving squirrels?

grannyqueenie Sun 06-Dec-20 23:01:03

lemongrove the mess appears to be sludgy grey stuff. I initially wondered if it was from the fat balls which are in the next feeder along, but in the past any residue from that was quickly gobbled up by the ground feeders. Mind you now I come to think of it the starlings seem to have deserted us lately. This much bigger residue has only recently appeared since I bought a new feeder, the one a local shop recommended, for sunflower hearts. It’s an area of about 12” in diameter, I’m not so bothered about the grass as merlot says it will regrow, more concerned about visiting rats! The day I spotted the sparrowhawk there were a few little feathers around on the ground and a noticeable dearth of gold finches! But they’re all back again, with various tits and today a nuthatch thrown in for good measure! I’m willing to sacrifice the grass for that treat!

grannyqueenie Sun 06-Dec-20 23:05:42

kitty they are fickle aren’t they? A couple of years ago I spotted a bullfinch in the garden and bought niger seed in the hope of encouraging it to visit regularly. I never saw it again and none of others seemed to fancy the Niger seed!

biba70 Wed 09-Dec-20 23:15:48

we have so many birds here- but the sparrowhawk does know about it- and regularly comes to feed too- so so fast. And then the bird table goes quiet for a day or two.

Shinamae Wed 03-Feb-21 15:25:54

Even though I have moved the bird table quite away from the house now still no birds have I seen on it and no food is disappearing from it. ??‍♀️

NannaLyn Wed 03-Feb-21 17:28:00

Shinamae

Have you considered swapping them round to see whether the new feeder is the problem?

Shinamae Wed 03-Feb-21 17:41:23

Yes Nannalyn that’s what I’ve actually done and the birds are not going on either of the bird tables front or back but they are eating the fat balls so I’m considering not putting any more fat balls out and then seeing if they will use the bird tables, I find it so strange. ??‍♀️

muse Wed 03-Feb-21 18:48:45

Agreement from me about the sparrowhawk. Birds will come back after an attack. We hardly saw any robins and blackbirds one season. They fed off the table which makes it easy for the sparrowhawk. Tits and finches seemed to be safe. They feed from our feeders.

Shinamae Sun 07-Feb-21 21:32:48

Finally, (after literally months )this morning I was looking at the bird table and I saw a robin on it and within a few seconds there was another one so that was two robins in the back garden, I was so delighted you would’ve thought I’d won the lottery!!!...??

Rosie51 Sun 07-Feb-21 21:42:10

Oh I'm jealous Shinamae smile I don't have a table but a variety of hanging feeders containing different foods. Not seen any birds in ages, only the fat pigeon that can't balance on them searching for spillage underneath, of which there was none. I took pity and scattered a few seeds on the grass.

Shinamae Sun 07-Feb-21 22:10:53

I still get a lot of sparrows out the front garden and there was a blue tit on the feeders of the tree in the back garden yesterday as well. How strange that you aren’t getting any birds either what an earth is going on?....? The sparrows feed on the fat balls but there is a bird table at the front as well and I’ve not seen any birds on that either, I am actually going to let the fat balls run out at the front and not replace them for awhile and just see if they will use the bird table... I spent quite a bit of money on good birdseed and of course I have to keep replacing it as it can’t stay there forever.... as obviously it will go off in some way. ?

Georgesgran Sun 07-Feb-21 22:20:14

My DH says I’m not allowed to buy another bird feeder!! As if!
Like Callistemon - our birds have avoided the fat balls, but devoured everything else. I’ve special feeders so small birds can get to it, but the jackdaws and magpies have to pick up the spillages from the ground.

Shinamae Mon 08-Feb-21 00:01:15

I have just ordered two new bird boxes, good ones not the cheap ones, was going to put them either side of old wooden washing line pole at about a height of maybe 8 foot and 10 foot but now I have read that nesting boxes should be 25 feet apart!! The post is about 8”square...any experience,advice gratefully received.....?

moggie57 Mon 08-Feb-21 00:14:23

Birds get used to the old one.I would out it back.maybe its the colour too.birds prefer green/brown

Rosie51 Mon 08-Feb-21 00:29:21

I spent quite a bit of money on good birdseed and of course I have to keep replacing it as it can’t stay there forever.... as obviously it will go off in some way.

bane of my life while they're not visiting. With the awful amount of rain we've had even my "weather proof" feeders had admitted rain which had sent the food mouldy sad It's costing me a fortune not to feed the birds confused

Buffybee Mon 08-Feb-21 00:37:02

The birds do seem disinterested in the fat balls this year but have you noticed they are much more solid now, as they don’t put them in individual nets any more. Which of course I agree with but when I broke the fat balls up by bashing with a steak tenderiser in the bag, they finally ate them.
I get the suet now, which they love, along with peanuts, mixed seeds and meal worms.
My little birds in the back are very tame and become very excited when they see me in the kitchen in the morning, chattering and hopping about the shrubs, until I go out with their food.
If I’m busy and try to do it later, a little Robin sits on the edge of the table, staring intently at the kitchen window, almost tapping his foot, looking at his watch and saying, “what time do you call this” grin. I always say out loud “ok! ok! I’m coming”
I agree with others, the birds may have to get used to the new feeder and also I’ve found they are happier if the table is next shrubs or trees.

Shinamae Mon 08-Feb-21 08:58:41

moggie57

Birds get used to the old one.I would out it back.maybe its the colour too.birds prefer green/brown

I had to throw the old one away that’s why I’ve ordered these two new ones they are from a reputable site so hopefully birds will accept them and use them...Looked out this morning and the Robins were there again ?

Shinamae Mon 08-Feb-21 11:59:44

Have ordered this for the Robins....

Shinamae Wed 03-Mar-21 12:21:44

Sparrows are very occasionally going on the front bird table now but they still much prefer the fat balls and seem to fight amongst them selves when they’re on them. I get very frustrated I think why aren’t some of you going on the bird table? ??

MayBee70 Wed 03-Mar-21 12:34:18

Maybe the birds are moulting? They seem to disappear when they do. I’ve had the blackbird in the garden this morning eating his daily apple but no other birds at all.