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nanna8 Tue 26-May-26 09:37:15

Whether they are banned or simply stop contributing it seems this happens reasonably often. It is a shame ,particularly when someone who has been a ‘regular’ is banned and most of us have no idea what caused it. A recent person to be banned never, as far as I am aware, transgressed . Sometimes I think someone with opposing views complains and causes a banning quite unnecessarily and we are the poorer for it. It would be very boring indeed if we all held the same views on everything.

Delila Mon 01-Jun-26 18:59:43

Maremia

Some GNs know and many do not.
Perhaps it is forbidden to name names.

Haha - that reminds me of the quote from the Bible - “Many are called but few are chosen”.

greyfur Mon 01-Jun-26 19:24:09

Many of us here know who likes to control threads and it’s certainly not Allira

Is it like Ghost hunters? Thread conrollers?

V3ra Mon 01-Jun-26 19:44:56

Doodledog

Sorry, but again, I have no idea who you mean. I would like to see Allira back, and am happy to argue for that; but it feels increasingly as though I know nothing of what has gone on, so I'm not sure what (or whom) I'm arguing against, if you see what I mean?

You and me both Doodledog 🤷🏼

Maremia Mon 01-Jun-26 19:45:02

Maybe they are just figments of the imagination?

Maremia Mon 01-Jun-26 19:56:29

In fairness to our newer GNs, there are often more people watching a Thread than names appearing in posts.
Some pop in then out again, if the topic is of no interest.
And there are others who enjoy reading, but do not wish/chose to contribute.
They are sometimes called Ghosts Lurkers or Shadows.

Cabbie21 Mon 01-Jun-26 20:14:57

More of us might start to lurk, if this situation continues.

Doodledog Mon 01-Jun-26 20:22:15

I'm hardly a newer GNer though. I don't go on N&P as often as I used to, ironically because of the change in atmosphere since the GE. All the same, I am on here a lot, and know most of the regular names, but I have no idea who is being referred to, or what they are supposed to have done other than 'target' Allira in an unspecified way.

I don't even know what that means in this case. Is the suggestion that a lurker is to blame?

petra Mon 01-Jun-26 20:34:14

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eazybee Mon 01-Jun-26 21:19:58

So, no further develops then?
Sad.

petra Mon 01-Jun-26 21:42:58

eazybee

So, no further develops then?
Sad.

HQ stopped communication some days ago 😥

Maremia Mon 01-Jun-26 21:56:51

Scrolling back to 14.43

Maremia Mon 01-Jun-26 22:00:08

So, the 'name' is being bandied about in a different medium?
Fair enough.

Dickens Tue 02-Jun-26 03:52:23

Maremia

So, the 'name' is being bandied about in a different medium?
Fair enough.

... I'm becoming confused... a different medium ?

I think I might just toddle over to the gardening threads where things are more ordered and straightforward grin

BlueBelle Tue 02-Jun-26 05:57:02

Please can we get back to the reason for this thread

Allira was banned (for life) without warnings, and after it is believed one person (who shall not be named on here) complained and reported her.
How fair is this, to not even be clearly told what ‘crime’ you have committed, what rules you have supposedly broken, and without being warned…’ if you do that again you will be banned’
Admin have popped on with a simple ‘we can’t discuss’ type of friendly post and are obviously hoping, their silence and our boredom, will eventually wind it all down to the history books.

This is not only about Allira but about our futures too, can we also be victims of instant dismissal?

Maremia Tue 02-Jun-26 06:00:54

Different mediums
Sorry if I have caused confusion.
People in the know could be comparing notes via PMs.
Or email.

Aveline Tue 02-Jun-26 06:46:06

Good morning Allira. I hope today's the day the moderators see sense.

Cabbie21 Tue 02-Jun-26 06:48:09

More cryptic comments. I understand why we have to be careful but I’m another who hasn’t a clue who or what is behind this.
I agree that we need some response from the Mods and, even better, the reinstatement of Allira.

Aldom Tue 02-Jun-26 06:53:18

Good morning Allira. I too hope today will be the day you are allowed back. GN is poorer without your contributions.
Best wishes. smile

Doodledog Tue 02-Jun-26 07:08:45

The trouble is that whilst it may be believed that Poster X did the deed, it is not known for sure, and nor is it known why she did it - if she did it. If Poster X is reading the thread, and is aware that she is in the frame, she must be feeling terrible, and has no means of defending herself if innocent, or explaining herself if not.

The decision to ban wasn’t Person X’s - it was HQ’s. X may have assumed there would be a warning or just a post deletion, and after all, we are encouraged to report and leave adjudication to HQ.

For various reasons I have a fear of being wrongly accused, but that aside I think most of us would hate to think that PMs about us are circulating and that we are being reviled on the board.

I had hoped that there would have been a decision to reinstate Allira by now, but I can’t help thinking that this thread might work against that happening, as X’s position would be untenable if her report is exposed as unsound, and others might be deterred from alerting HQ to anything untoward on the board.

I realise that HQ is in a difficult position - they have acted on information given, and made a judgement call that is unpopular, as can be seen by the feeling expressed on this thread. OTOH, their duty is to all of us, including Person X. How do they reinstate Allira without sending the message that there is no recourse against popular posters?

If there has been a deliberate attempt to remove Allira (and we have seen some very dirty dealing against posters in the past, so it is possible), deleting the evidence really doesn’t help. All the same, I assume the deleted posts are visible to Admin, so they are in a better position than we are to have an overview.

If they can, on reflection, see that they were hasty, maybe a solution would be to allow Allira to re register in a new name with no fanfare? If, OTOH, there is information we don’t know about, a post on the lines of ‘Having reviewed the situation we are confident that these rules (a,b,c) have been breached, and having discussed our reasoning with Allira and listened to her defence - that bit is very important - we are standing by our decision.’ Or something else that helps the rest of us to understand the rules and how they are enforced.

I realise that It’s not for me to tell HQ how to deal with things, but ignoring this thread, and everyone on it, is not helping. It feels very disrespectful to all of us, and is not helping to address whatever it was that Allira has been accused of doing. Justice needs to be seen to be done, and we are not seeing it. Speculation about what happened is likely to continue until we get some sort of answer.

BlueBelle Tue 02-Jun-26 07:19:48

Good post Doodledog
It’s about these draconian rules around reporting and banning without warning, that is at the heart of this.
No one can lose a job without warnings, to give them a chance to change their behaviour, so how come GN can ban without any such warnings, it doesn’t replicate real life.
If Allira was ‘goady’ as has been suggested why was she not warned to stop.

Please come back HQ and treat us as intelligent adults not naughty kindergarten pupils because that’s how it feels

Spinnaker Tue 02-Jun-26 07:26:17

Doodledog If Poster X is reading the thread, and is aware that she is in the frame, she must be feeling terrible, and has no means of defending herself if innocent, or explaining herself if not.

Sorry but I can't help feel this won't be true of whoever reported Allira. In my opinion.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Jun-26 07:32:49

Hi Allira 🙋‍♀️

Galaxy Tue 02-Jun-26 07:34:50

I think this fairly clearly shows why they can't discuss individual posters and any discussions have to be around the rules in general.

TerriBull Tue 02-Jun-26 07:38:47

Good Morning Allira, we're all still here, waiting with everything crossed hoping you to be with us again x

AGAA4 Tue 02-Jun-26 07:59:03

As we will never see the 'evidence' of what happened to cause the ban I can't condemn the person who has reported. She may have been very upset not vindictive.
I just don't like reporting as this is the result that may not have been intended.

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