Disappearing contributers

primrose51 but surely we all have opinions on particular topics.
If another poster disagrees then just say so.

Lots of different subjects are discussed on here often incurring heated exchanges. I still can’t see how GN would cause a banning because someone disagreed with someone else.
Puzzled.

eazybee

Gransnet HQ repeatedly state they are not influenced by Reports when operating a suspension or ban.
It would be courteous to publish the reason, if only to prevent other posters from falling into the same trap.
This arbitrary suspension without explanation is, intentionally or not, curtailing free speech.

I’ll publish one of the reasons. She is accused of being goady. 😂 You have to laugh because it’s too silly for words.

Is anyone able to pm me and say who.was banned that has caused such a rumpus? Or is it banned to do so?

I am in a shed load of trouble then.

There have in the past been outbreaks of deletions etc for humour, and allira was very funny.

I am not on here very often but she's hardly the most goady poster

Rather impersonal, GNHQ have nothing more to add other than Philips post on this thread…

And it doesn't concern them that many of us find it impossible to believe that Allira has transgressed on several occasions and been given warnings? You'd think they'd want us to have confidence they treat members fairly and consistently.

Crikey. I’m sure some of us can think of oeople who actually ARE goady and still here.

Yes she was very funny. I think the problem could have occurred when her levity crossed with the dead serious prefects of GN, the ones with the perma stern and stoney faces 😠😠😠

eazybee

Gransnet HQ repeatedly state they are not influenced by Reports when operating a suspension or ban.
It would be courteous to publish the reason, if only to prevent other posters from falling into the same trap.
This arbitrary suspension without explanation is, intentionally or not, curtailing free speech.

Well that’s not true is it?

I as specifically told that I as receiving a warning because You had been reported and that f GN received another report I would be banned.

The content of the report would not be the relevant factor.

I was never told “you have been reported because of…….”

Ndeed when I asked what the infringement was because didn’t want to repeat it, I received no reply at all.

I don’t post this to get attention for me. Ive quit except for this thread. As I did once before when Violetsky in her many guises was allowed to go on and on.

And still is. The style has quirks that can’t be disguised. Virtue signalling and past trauma are two of them.

I don’t care about being banned for saying that. I’ve quit anyway.

I can’t stand the injustice and favouritism of Gransnet HQ.

OldFrill

In support of Allira l have emailed gransnet, to their contact address on this site.

All best wishes Allira

I have received a very courteous reply from "Pip" linking to his comment here (should anyone have missed it).

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/a1358653-Disappearing-contributers?msgid=31641037#31641037

Difficult.
Goady is in the mind of the reader. I find it Goady to me includes being told by other posters what I should or shouldn’t post, but I don’t report them for that.

I also got a kind and thoughtful reply of this kind from him.

I thinks its easy to pile up and criticise GNHQ dramatically when we don't know what actually happened,

but I remain bewildered, and supportive of Allirra returning from all that I have read from her

I'm also aware that creating an entirely negative narrative on GNHQ may put some more shy posters off saying anything possibly controversial, or even deciding they feel they have to run away from this forum, because I do believe on balance they keep GN as a relatively safe space for those who want support, help, fun, chat, from each other.

Thanks for the info lathyrus x

I have an exciting, cunning new theory: Allira isn't a person but an HQ staff member posing as a Gran and feigning the various ups and downs that we all have. An AI Allira. No wonder they can't reply sensibly to our pleas for clarity and reinstatement .

You have to be careful as trolls use well known posters names but change letter to a capital or a number. At first glance it looks like a genuine old GN poster and they write horrible things . Which of course upsets people and them the genuine poster or someone who knows them points out the spelling of the username is wrong. Happened to several friends of mine.

So always check the the spelling . Trolls are very sly.

We have to become troll hunters .

eazybee

Gransnet HQ repeatedly state they are not influenced by Reports when operating a suspension or ban.
It would be courteous to publish the reason, if only to prevent other posters from falling into the same trap.
This arbitrary suspension without explanation is, intentionally or not, curtailing free speech.

It would be courteous to publish the reason, if only to prevent other posters from falling into the same trap. This arbitrary suspension without explanation is, intentionally or not, curtailing free speech.

Now that is a very good point.

Because we are all wondering what on earth she could have said that would attract a permanent ban (I'm assuming from what I've read that it is permanent?).

And that does beg the question. We need to know, because if Allira can fall into the trap, then so could possibly any of us - and it's inhibiting.

The other thing that worries me is that I know there are posters on here who have a lot going on, medically speaking. If they get banned for any reason, haven't exchanged email addresses with anyone, and need to reach-out for whatever reason, then they are stuffed. If they are having a tough time, have had some awful health crisis, or even a worrying diagnosis, the support from the GN community could be very important. I'm thinking of the threads where members post their recent GP or hospital 'test' results, and are terrified of the implications. And that's not hype, I have seen posters use that precise word. There are frequently threads like that where, by the end of them, the OP returns to thank everyone and say that they are feeling calmer because of the support, and crucially - information - they've received.

When my partner died last year, GN became, after a few months, a kind of lifeline for me because being part of the rumble and rattle of the every-day posts was what helped me to pick up the threads of 'normal' life. As has been said, we are a community. Maybe it's not an exaggeration to say that peremptorily cutting someone off from their community could in some instances, be quite devastating?

Well having checked with the dictionary there is no actual word of goady, it is in other words, made up just like the whole witch hunt has been ‘made up’

I still have had NO reply from anyone as regards my email

HQ far better if you come to talk to us as this is not going away it really isn’t.

AI Overview Goady is an adjective used to describe behavior that is deliberately provocative, annoying, or designed to stir up trouble. Someone acting in this manner is actively "goading"—continuously pushing, teasing, or antagonizing someone until they react emotionally or lose their temper.

Now that does happen on Threads especially if there is a pile on.

I find it easier not to respond to certain posters, better for my blood pressure.

Senseless having a spat on social media with someone you do not know or ever likely to meet.

Posters goading are doing it to get a reaction…

Accusing Allira of being 'goady' is ridiculous. As I've said a couple of times in this thread, I can think of at least one poster off the top of my head to whom that would definitely apply, and who has been reported numerous times - yet is still here and posts regularly. So why are some posters banned right away, yet others are not? Either apply the 'rules' across the board, or don't bother.

ViceVersa yes 👍

My suspicion is that it’s not the number of times people are reported that counts for GNHQ in their decision making process, so much as whether they themselves think a post is inappropriate and they take it down as a consequence.

So for example, if you get five posts deleted perhaps you are suspended, but if you’re a previously suspended it’s three posts, and for a previously banned poster it’s only one deletion and you’re banned with no appeal opportunity- or something along those lines? I’ve made the example up, but maybe Allira has fallen foul of whatever the system is, on a points basis?

I should have said, I’ve been puzzling over what PhilipGransnet said all morning, thinking the clues must be there, and trying to work out what was between the lines when he said ‘we do not ban posters arbitrarily - there is a process. And unless a poster is a previously banned poster, an obvious spammer, or a troll they are afforded many opportunities to adhere to our guidelines before we would ban.’