King Charles and Prince Harry

We were asked if we were bothered.

Well, that was an opening, wasn't it! 😁

Are you bovvered?

kittylester

We need him inside the family rather than setting up a court in America in opposition to William after Chatles dies.

Yes 👍🏻

Harry has come to realise which side his bread is buttered.

Allira

Harry has come to realise which side his bread is buttered.

Yep. I don’t think he realised how much he would be giving up to live in the US and now it is really hitting home.

Its amazing Harry wants to be part of the family he publicly rubbished but it’s up to them. I would doubt they could ever
be alone with each other.

FGT, I’ve not RTFT before commenting, for which I have my reasons (excuses). I will read in the morning, before which I want to say, well done our King and his son. I wish them well. I hope reconciliation is possible. My heart goes out to them, attempting reconciliation in the glare of publicity in which some yearn for failure

Yes definitely Iam from a family perspective. On that level I wish them every success in their endeavours. It would be mean not to.

I'm not up to speed on this, having been across the channel a while, but it's encouraging to read of a reconciliation.

On a different note, the Royals seem to be out of the news in France, (apart from Macron's July visit to the UK), compared with a few years ago. I'm not sure whether people have lost interest or whether the foreign press has thankfully backed off since the illnesses were announced.

[smile

TerriBull

I think The King will want to reconcile with Harry, take the royal situation out of the equation and its simple parent and child dynamics, and estrangement, all too common, causes a lot of heartache for both parties. It does seem that Harry regrets being so indiscreet, he actually looked really happy to be here. I think William is going to be a harder nut to crack, Harry and his wife have both been very mean about Catherine. Meghan of course has form as far as estrangement is concerned with not only her family but friends having fallen foul of not meeting her expectations. So whilst Harry, may offer some mea culpas, I really don't think she will and I think that will result in an impasse as to moving forward and embracing the whole family. I think Harry will have to straddle two separate positions.

I think you’re right about the whole situation.

Allira

Well, that was an opening, wasn't it! 😁

Are you bovvered?

Nah! Does this face look bovvered to you?😁

Couldn,t care less but am surprised at the unchristian attitude of so many ladies of mature years.Given that NO ONE knows the truth except those concerned why are so many so involved
Honestly I think with what we know as facts from Uncle Dickie and his “thing” for young boys to Andrew who paid £12 Million to a woman he claims he never met .
A King who was an adulterer and worse a friend of Savile maybe Harry is the best of a very bad bunch !
I,m just happy they aren’t MY family !

Harry and Charles reconciliation will take time and with goodwill on both sides they can find a way move on.

I doubt William will do anything other than go through the motions in his dealings with Harry for the foreseeable - not because of how he was treated by Harry in his book but due to his rubbishing of Catherine. I suspect that’s the unforgivable thing for William.

I've got my own family to worry about. The Royals can get on with their own problems.

I see Harry is now in Ukraine.
Extraordinary, isn’t it, that he claims to feel unsafe here, yet is perfectly happy going to a country currently at war with Russia.

I feel so sorry for Charles. He obviously loves his son despite Harry’s deeply hurtful behaviour, plus there is the lack of trust.
Anyway they have met. I just hope Harry has the sense not to divulge any part of their conversation to the media.

Yes I am bothered, although that's not the wording I would choose. I've huge sympathy for the king who has had this Harry problem as well as his cancer illness. The king is human, and a parent. He must be deeply hurt and distressed.

Being at odds, temporarily I hope, with my Son , I hope Charles and his son have made their peace.
However I personally would not like his wife Meghan returning to Royal life and the trappings that go with it.
She should not be Her Royal Highness, it is a travesty to expect the British public to welcome her back and kowtow to her.
She has made her position clear, she did not want to conform, just to be very important.

Couldn,t care less but am surprised at the unchristian attitude of so many ladies of mature years.

I remember you saying posters were being unChristian previously, paddyann.
Why assume people are Christian? They might be of any faith or none 🤔
Why bring Christianity or lack of it into this?

I don't understand.

Allira

^Couldn,t care less but am surprised at the unchristian attitude of so many ladies of mature years.^

I remember you saying posters were being unChristian previously, paddyann.
Why assume people are Christian? They might be of any faith or none 🤔
Why bring Christianity or lack of it into this?

I don't understand.

Yes it's a very strange and random assumption, especially as I thought paddyann was a very 'inclusive' poster. Why would any Muslim, Jew, atheist, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist etc display Christian values?

Or Humanist for that matter!

I just mentioned this post to DH and his immediate response was 'maybe she only has a downer on Christians and not any of the other faiths'. Hmmmmm......

To answer the original post, no I'm not especially bothered but I think it would be nice if Harry could reconcile with his birth family and I hope this is achievable. On a personal note if I was part of the RF I'm afraid I'd never trust him fully and would be very circumspect in my dealings with him and especially anything I voiced, which I think is incredibly sad. Trust once broken cannot be easily cobbled together again. A hard lesson for Harry to learn. I doubt William and Catherine will ever feel totally at ease with him again.

I hope they can reconcile too. Sometimes we have radically different perspectives within our families but family is family. Blood ties and all that. 🩸

Harry looked awful as he left the meeting. Did people see that photograph? He looked hot and bothered and tearful. Maybe Camilla had been present throughout? Don't know. His new PR team much in evidence. The high profile trip to Ukraine then that public donation of one million pounds to the highest profile TV charity in the country. Meanwhile, William and Catherine have quietly given £65 million to a range of smaller, practical charities. I doubt Harry's visit will cut much ice with his brother and his wife.