Corbyn now Angela Rayner another reason not to vote Labour 🤔

I don't much like Rayner's style but she couldn't be a worse Deputy PM than Raab. She masterminded the defeat of the Tories' attempt to roll back the pollution rules to benefit their bulk housebuilder friends. We need more houses, especially Council houses, but not at the cost of ever increasing river pollution.

Chocgran👏👏

Quite honestly, the current government have been so dreadful and dragged this country so far down, I no longer care who will be the new PM or deputy. They simply cannot be any worse, although sadly I think our gutter press will have issues with a strong, working class woman. More an indictment of them and our cap- doffing society than of her.

Blinko

Back to the topic, Rayner has been given Levelling Up. Good.

Yes

Back to the topic, Rayner has been given Levelling Up. Good.

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Well I never knew that!

Barack Obama (amongst other people) used the expression about a pig wearing lipstick still being a pig.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

Sometimes when you are in a hole, it is a much better look to give in gracefully with an apology. I find that you are better thought of.

Go on then.

Primrose53

Well I never knew that!

Barack Obama (amongst other people) used the expression about a pig wearing lipstick still being a pig.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

Sometimes when you are in a hole, it is a much better look to give in gracefully with an apology. I find that you are better thought of.

Primrose53

Well I never knew that!

Barack Obama (amongst other people) used the expression about a pig wearing lipstick still being a pig.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

I don't think he was referring to a person, Primrose, although it was about Sarah Palin.

He was referring to the policies she was presenting as something brand new which were just rehashed variations of old policies.

It's a phrase used to criticise political spin.

Well I never knew that!

Barack Obama (amongst other people) used the expression about a pig wearing lipstick still being a pig.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_on_a_pig

Casdon

Primrose53

I guess it’s just a more modern take on the old saying “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear”. 😉

No, it isn’t. Not making a silk purse out of a sows ear refers to an object or a task, not a person.

Of course if can refer to a person.

jeremybutterfield.wordpress.com/2019/04/23/a-silk-purse-out-of-a-sows-ear-meaning-and-origin/

It really isn’t Promrose. Of course that won’t matter to you. You also don’t see the irony in the use of offensive language in an attempt to denigrate a woman who is a positive role model to so many struggling in similar circumstances to the ones she lived through and survived

Primrose53

I guess it’s just a more modern take on the old saying “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear”. 😉

No, it isn’t. Not making a silk purse out of a sows ear refers to an object or a task, not a person.

I guess it’s just a more modern take on the old saying “you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear”. 😉

Primrose53 Denigrating someone's efforts to overcome their poor start and making insulting comments makes you sound just like a Tory. But you will probably take that as a compliment. I like Angela, she seems like a normal person.

Goodness Primrose- how are you able to use such a phrase and feel comfortable to judge anyone else as " rough and common "?
It is not language that I would use of anyone, with or without the laughing emoji.

I like Angela.

She makes a refreshing change from most of the politicians we have today.

How very unpleasant.

I heard this comment today about Angela Rayner and it says it all really

“You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.” 🤣🤣🤣

Primrose53

MayBee70

Gillycats

Each to their own but as a disillusioned Labour voter, and paid up union worker (I voted for Lisa Nandy) I won’t vote for them while Starmer and Rayner are at the helm. He keeps changing his mind and she really wouldn’t be great on the international political platform. Calling people scum when you can’t put together a decent argument really isn’t the way forward.

Out of interest, as a fully paid up union member how do you feel about Mick Lynch supporting brexit and telling his party members to do the same. Or are you, like Corbyn anti EU? Lisa Nancy, much as I’ve always liked her, was very much against the people’s vote so, just as you are disillusioned about Starmer and Rayner, I’m disillusioned about Lynch and Nancy.

*MayBee70”. Her name is Nandy not Nancy.

I rather like Lisa Nandy.

I know it’s Nandy….it was auto correct playing up and I didn’t spot it! I actually wrote to her years ago when I saw her on Question Time because I was so impressed by her but her stance on Brexit disappointed me even though she was only saying that she supported what her constituents had voted for. Strangely enough, I know that it’s only your own MP that’s obliged to reply to you but I often get replies from Conservative MP’s but never from MP’s from other parties. I’ve even had a reply from Nadine Dorries in the past. Because it’s very difficult for Conservative MP’s to not toe the party line I often write and thank them when they do.

I admire Angela very much.
She is a solid Labour politician and after the most difficult of starts in life, has achieved so much.
To those who decry her, I would refer you to Gillian Keegan's disgraceful smirking display today.
Angela Rayner is someone who is an inspiration to our girls, our working class and our North

Dinahmo

Nicenanny3

Since you appear to know little about Angela Rayner here is an extract from her Wikipedia page.

"Rayner was born and raised in Stockport, where she attended the state secondary Avondale School. She left school aged 16 whilst pregnant and without any qualifications. She later trained in social care at Stockport College and worked for the local council as a care worker. She eventually became a trade union representative within Unison, during which time she joined the Labour Party. Selected to contest Ashton‑under‑Lyne in 2014 and elected for the seat at the 2015 general election, she was appointed Shadow Minister for Pensions by Jeremy Corbyn in January 2016."

It seems to me that she has had more life experience than many of the Tory MPs who went to Oxbridge and have no empathy with a large part of the UK population.

At least she's honest about her view of Starmer.

“Trained in social care at Stockport College” 🤔

She got an NVQ Level 2 which is an entry level qualification for people working in care homes etc. It can be completed in a couple of months.

Iam64

Your judgemental, patronising post is offensive . a friend who never lost her broad Lancs accent etc etc
I’m northern though as a southerner once said ‘are yiu dear, you can’t tell”
Go Angela

Oh if only she would go! I can’t stand her.
Hoping Kier can ditch her once he reaches number 10.

MayBee70

Gillycats

Each to their own but as a disillusioned Labour voter, and paid up union worker (I voted for Lisa Nandy) I won’t vote for them while Starmer and Rayner are at the helm. He keeps changing his mind and she really wouldn’t be great on the international political platform. Calling people scum when you can’t put together a decent argument really isn’t the way forward.

Out of interest, as a fully paid up union member how do you feel about Mick Lynch supporting brexit and telling his party members to do the same. Or are you, like Corbyn anti EU? Lisa Nancy, much as I’ve always liked her, was very much against the people’s vote so, just as you are disillusioned about Starmer and Rayner, I’m disillusioned about Lynch and Nancy.

*MayBee70”. Her name is Nandy not Nancy.

I rather like Lisa Nandy.

Gillycats

Each to their own but as a disillusioned Labour voter, and paid up union worker (I voted for Lisa Nandy) I won’t vote for them while Starmer and Rayner are at the helm. He keeps changing his mind and she really wouldn’t be great on the international political platform. Calling people scum when you can’t put together a decent argument really isn’t the way forward.

Out of interest, as a fully paid up union member how do you feel about Mick Lynch supporting brexit and telling his party members to do the same. Or are you, like Corbyn anti EU? Lisa Nancy, much as I’ve always liked her, was very much against the people’s vote so, just as you are disillusioned about Starmer and Rayner, I’m disillusioned about Lynch and Nancy.

Opinions of governments and individuals are totally different matters.

I should think this government cares very much about people's opinions as they'd like to be voted back in. Not that they're doing very well in the approval stakes...