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Jane10 Fri 29-Dec-17 13:07:12

Obviously I'm an old fogey but I'm so annoyed that people are getting themselves so drunk and out of control that we need to have drunk tanks staffed by NHS. I know this is a pragmatic decision to reduce admissions to A&E. It's the fact that people are so selfish and just plain stupid as to get themselves in such a state. Who should pay for their care? Themselves once they've sobered up? Alcohol suppliers? I don't think it should be those of us who don't and never did get ourselves into such a state.

Baggs Sun 31-Dec-17 14:55:43

How do rates of drunkenness in Norway, where all alcohol is sold under government control and is relatively expensive, with rates in the UK?

Jalima1108 Sun 31-Dec-17 14:57:55

Here's an interesting study:
academic.oup.com/eurpub/article/26/4/581/2467426

(UK not included)

You still haven't explained what is wrong with minimum unit pricing
Oh really, how remiss
If I knew the answer and whether or not it would help, I would be advising the Government.

MissAdventure Sun 31-Dec-17 14:59:20

grin

Jalima1108 Sun 31-Dec-17 14:59:56

Perhaps you should have told the Scottish government, before they decided minimum unit pricing.
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Explain the reasoning behind their decision.

The proof of the pudding etc

Jalima1108 Sun 31-Dec-17 15:00:54

It would have been interesting if the UK had been included in that study and included in Table 2 Baggs

Jalima1108 Sun 31-Dec-17 15:04:26

Scotland has more of a problem with the drinking culture than the rest of the UK according to statistics.

^the gap between per capita consumption in Scotland and
England and Wales has widened in recent years: In 2000, per capita consumption was 10% higher in Scotland
than in England and Wales, while in 2013 it was 17% higher.^

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 15:20:41

"The alcohol problem in Scotland is so significant that ground breaking measures are required.

Given the link between consumption and harm and evidence that affordability is one of the drivers of increased consumption, addressing price is an important element of any long-term strategy."

codfather Sun 31-Dec-17 15:33:10

The Duke of Wellington started public houses to wean the masses off Gin which was causing high levels of drunkenness at the time. This is not a new problem, just the way we handle it!

Once we start charging drunks for treatment, (do we give them a rebate for the taxes they've paid on the alcohol?) do we then charge DIYers for their accidents, smokers, obesity etc. etc. etc......?

soldiersailor Sun 31-Dec-17 15:36:12

I remember back in the 60s the driver of any vehicle involved in an accident with a pedestrian was liable to pay about £7 (more than half my weekly pay) if said pedestrian had to go to hospital, regardless of who was at fault. I don't know if this still applies but it seems to me that anyone who arrives at hospital drunk should be liable automatically for a payment to the hospital of about £200. That might help cover some of the costs and concentrate the minds of the drunks somewhat.

Baggs Sun 31-Dec-17 15:54:32

Are there any countries where measures, groundbreaking or not, have made a difference?

codfather Sun 31-Dec-17 15:55:26

A motorist who takes an accident victim to hospital can still be charged a fee but this is normally covered under motor insurance without affecting NCD!

MissAdventure Sun 31-Dec-17 15:59:41

I think choosing to get drunk is far different than doing a spot of d.i.y. I've never run out onto the main road wielding my hacksaw at anyone, and fighting people. (I've felt like it!)

NannyTee Sun 31-Dec-17 16:24:26

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