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Jesus replaced with a Gregg's sausage roll.

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Day6 Fri 17-Nov-17 13:25:32

The Guardian would have us believe that only 'flaky' Christians are likely to be upset by Gregg's depiction of the Nativity, placing a sausage roll in the manger.

So, Christians are 'flaky" (oh so witty, not) to be upset?

I am no longer a church-goer but I was brought up as a Christian, as were many of us I suspect, and I am offended that Greggs think it is OK to offend as they have. Not only that, journalists like this oh so lofty sneering one place the blame for any offence on silly Christians who are obviously not normal if they have faith.

It really sickens me, this media hatred of certain groups when some are beyond criticism.

One journalist suggested all religions are open to parody and it is par for the course. I'd suggest otherwise. Make fun of Mohammed and you'll be blown to smithereens. Think Charlie Hebdo.

The hilarity the defaced manger scene has caused over the internet puzzles me. Greggs in their insensitivity have become the comic heroes and Christians, for believing in Christ's lowly birth, are the idiotic 'right wing' reactionaries, according to left wing media.

I am cross at the power of social media to dictate what we should think, but also on behalf of my truly lovely Christian friends. One told me she has 'turned the other cheek'.

How do you feel?

Elegran Thu 23-Nov-17 17:13:03

Minced meat.

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 17:13:36

Oh, is that what they are!

I thought it was 'colly birds' meaning 'calling birds'
Though what calling birds are I have no idea.

NfkDumpling Thu 23-Nov-17 17:13:38

Thank you Jen. Did they actually have meat in them? (Sausage meat perhaps?)

gillybob Thu 23-Nov-17 17:13:52

I used to think it was cauli birds ... as in birds made from cauliflower confused

Elegran Thu 23-Nov-17 17:16:09

On the third day of Christmas my true love sent to me 6 geese a-laying, 5 GO-OLD RINGS, 4 calling colly birds, 3 French hens, 2 turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree!

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 17:18:04

Anyone had a mince pie yet? Yes, on Bonfire Night, made by someone else and very delicious it was too, but not very large so I don't feel guilty.

The things I never knew about mince pies, I just poke a skewer in the middle to make a hole; did the Three Wise Men eat mince pies then? I expect they were great sustenance on their long journey, and they keep well too.

NfkDumpling Thu 23-Nov-17 17:19:20

Eight maids a milking, seven swans a swimming. Must be nearly there, six geese a laying.....

gillybob Thu 23-Nov-17 17:20:23

I actually love Greggs sweet mince pies and ( in my very humblest of opinions) they are next best to home made .

They are geet lush as out warmed ever so slightly and served with a dollop of cream. I knock them around a bit and say " oh these old things...I baked them this afternoon from a secret recipe"

NfkDumpling Thu 23-Nov-17 17:20:35

And what's best is they won't freeze. (Well the pastry does but soon thaws in the mouth.)

Elegran Thu 23-Nov-17 17:21:17

I SAID IT ALREADY!!!! Minced meat (chopped actually, with a sharp knife, Wikipedia says the mincer wasn't invented until the nineteenth century by a German revolutionist, Karl Friedrich Christian Ludwig Freiherr Drais von Sauerbronn. It is a wonder he could get his name onto the patent form.)

Day6 Thu 23-Nov-17 17:21:20

FIVE GOOOOOLD RINGS,
Four sausage rolls,
Three French hens....

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 17:21:33

NfK shock !!

Yes, I think they used to have minced mutton in them I think.

On the seventh day of Christmas
my true love sent to me:
Seven Swans a Swimming
Six Geese a Laying
Five Golden Rings
Four Calling Birds
Three French Hens
Two Turtle Doves
and a Partridge in a Pear Tree

NfkDumpling Thu 23-Nov-17 17:22:08

We don't actually have a Greggs near here. I'd have to go into Norwich and the parking is so expensive I never stop for food. Never been to Greggs.

Elegran Thu 23-Nov-17 17:22:29

Spices.

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 17:22:38

oh dear I'm a bit behind, carry on without me!

NfkDumpling Thu 23-Nov-17 17:23:42

Lamb/mutton. Aha, that sounds right. Not pork then.

Elegran Thu 23-Nov-17 17:24:13

On the ninth day of Christmas
my true love sent to me:
Nine drummers drumming
Eight maids a -milking
Seven Swans a Swimming
Six Geese a Laying
Five Golden Rings
Four Calling Birds
Three French Hens
Two Turtle Doves
and a Partridge in a Pear Tree

trisher Thu 23-Nov-17 17:24:13

Mince Pies were originally filled with meat. It was minced up with dried fruit and spices to hide any off-tasting bits. They were made in oval shapes to represent the manger.

durhamjen Thu 23-Nov-17 17:24:20

Blackbirds were a common source of food when Twelve Days of Christmas was written, in Tudor times, Nfk.
Mince pies originally had beef or venison, as well as fruits, suet and spices.
Strangely enough, they could also be oval, to represent the manger, but don't tell any Christians!

Do you know that if you eat a mince pie every day from Christmas Day until twelfth night you will have good luck for the whole of the next year?
You will also have to start on a diet straight away.

From my book of Christmas customs.

durhamjen Thu 23-Nov-17 17:24:59

Snap. trisher.

gillybob Thu 23-Nov-17 17:25:07

So you've never sampled the delights of a Greggs cheese pasty Nfkdumpling? You don't know what you've been missing .

Jalima1108 Thu 23-Nov-17 17:25:31

Four and Twenty Blackbirds
Baked in a pie

NfkDumpling Thu 23-Nov-17 17:26:06

My dinner's ready (love having a DH wot cooks!) Carry on girls.

Elegran Thu 23-Nov-17 17:26:27

Snap me too, please. Am I invisible?

gillybob Thu 23-Nov-17 17:26:49

Was it a Greggs meat and tatie pie Jalima ?

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