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NanaandGrampy Tue 23-May-17 20:21:42

UK's first gender-fluid policeman going by names 'Callum' and 'Abi' - The Telegraph

apple.news/A_gXNN3PZT2C2rVwulKG7mA

So....... you can now choose what gender you want to be depending on the day. I want to understand but I keep ending up back at ' what a load of tosh'!

What are your feelings?

icanhandthemback Wed 24-May-17 16:15:33

NanaandGrampy, I obviously didn't make my post clear. I know he/she has two names but would have thought the whole gender fluid thing would be much better if there was only one gender fluid name. I'm thinking purely administration exercise as it would be quite confusing for some people to deal with Callum one day and Abi the next, particularly in a court situation. As to anything else, it bothers me not. smile

NanaandGrampy Wed 24-May-17 16:29:12

Ah I understand now ican . I agree one name would be marginally better but as I understand it ( if understand is the word) the reason he has 2 names is because there is a clear division between 'female' days and 'male' days .

And that's where I lose the plot totally{smile] I understand if you're a man and feel you are in the wrong body and want to be a woman , or the other way round . What I am at a loss to understand is why anyone thinks they can be both depending on the time of day, day of the week or month of the year.

It bothers me in as much as good money is spent catering to this and the police force already struggle with the financial burden.

Ginny42 Wed 24-May-17 16:34:52

I think it must be very distressing to change so radically from day to day. I can only imagine people in this situation must be very unhappy, although I truly hope I'm wrong, because everyone deserves to live as they wish without prejudice or the ignorance of others making them unhappy. Will it affect the way they do their job? It shouldn't. I was always struck by how de Berniere wrote about Carlo the Italian soldier in his novel Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

Carlo’s story deals with the invisibility of GLBTQ people, and with the crushing weight of a silence that, for a soldier at the time, could only be broken at the cost of his life. The author captures the overwhelming loneliness of knowing there’s a crucial part of you that is somehow unacceptable to many who don't understand.

Thank goodness people can now be open about how they are and how they feel.

LondonMzFitz Wed 24-May-17 17:24:27

My quote "go get yourself a bl---y life" was from the poster before mine, not a personal accusation against (or a suggestion to) anyone here.

The issue is - I believe - a nod to the dolls for girls and cars for boys mindset. Why can't children just be what they want, play with what they want, without the gender issue. My sister in law referred to herself as a tomboy as a child, you see kids on TV referred to as a little princess, "sugar and spice" etc. In future I think the issue will be regarded as we now regard women with jobs, women who wear trousers, men who are nurses, etc. Sign of the times.

The article links to "recently retired" DCI Neville's comments. Times change, go with the flow, if it ain't hurting anyone, etc. The issue of money being spent on it - yeah, that would bother me too, frankly. But the original post doesn't refer to the cost.

Christinefrance Wed 24-May-17 17:52:55

Pity Cressida Dick doesn't put upholding the law at the heart of her time in office instead of getting on the latest gender band wagon .

Lazigirl Wed 24-May-17 19:05:43

Surely the police should reflect the society they are policing and if this is the way society is heading then it makes sense to me. I don't see that it will cost that much, and hopefully the police will be more approachable to people who do feel "different".

NanaandGrampy Wed 24-May-17 19:33:28

Apparently, the cost comes from staffing a complete diversity unit focussed on this and other issues. It isn't cheap to be different apparently.

MawBroon Wed 24-May-17 19:53:58

It may also have been the poster immediately before you LondonMzFitz, but these were your words at 10.52.11 this morning. hmm

If it ain't bothering you, go get yourself a bl----y life and leave 'em in peace

Jalima1108 Wed 24-May-17 20:06:17

I'm glad to hear that a police force is not discriminating against someone just because they are a member of a minority group.
Well, so am I MaryXYX, but there is a difference between not discriminating and spending public money on a special unit within the Met for the purpose of diversity.

Yes, the police officer could have chosen a name like Max, Alex, Jordan or Steve for instance and avoided confusion.

Nanna58 Wed 24-May-17 20:21:17

My daughter is in the Met, she's a Dectective Sargeant, I did suggest she 'presented' as a Superintendent one day, and to just say she was 'rank fluid' !!!

Lazigirl Wed 24-May-17 20:21:23

I thought they had diversity policies and training, didn't know they had actual units?

marpau Wed 24-May-17 21:00:47

Is this what was once referred to as split personality? Would the money not be better spent on medical help?

SparklyGrandma Wed 24-May-17 22:06:00

I wonder as a customer of public services, in these binary times, will I still have the right to say I prefer a woman to search me if necessary at airports or by a police officer?