Queen Camilla

To who is more attractive Camilla or Diana, it's silly to compare the looks of a 68 year old woman to someone who died at 36.

If physical appearance actually matters or increases the number of available sex partners, not one of the Windsor men would have ever had sex without money changing hands.

Simply put, it seems Camilla and Charles are soulmates.

How nice for them.

Norah. Aren't you forgetting that Diana died 30 years ago!.

20 years ago. Not a fan but it was just a week after DGD was born.

* Gemmag*

"Norah. Aren't you forgetting that Diana died 30 years ago!"

I believe she died 19 years ago. But you've made my point, there is no comparing looks of women born in 1947 and 1961.

Physical appearance shouldn't be part of the question.

What is unfair is so many allegations against C&C came from Diana , no evidence , yet Charles saying he did have an affair after the marriage had broken down is dismissed as a lie. Yet Diana was a manipulator and poor woman suffered from mental health problems. She never, ever said she had done anything wrong in the marriage ,nothing was her fault.

Actually, looking nice and an ability to be charming in factories, hospitals, schools, etc. is about all that is required from a royal consort. It's also good if the consort can avoid looking bored as soldiers march past or foreigners demonstrate their quaint customs when she/he visits.

Norah. My mistake. Diana died 1997, 20 years ago. Don't know what you mean when you say you can't compare the looks of 2 people because one was born in 1947 and the other in 1961. Of course you can. The remark was not meant to be a serious one but 14 years isn't that much but it's unusual to see a man choose the older woman.
Camilla might still be Queen one day.

I was not really a fan of Diana, just didn't have much against her. As a child of a mother who committed adultery reasonably openly, just like Charles and Camilla, I can't bear either of them. I just remember the feelings of humiliation I had as a child and it must have been hard for William and Harry reading about it all in the papers. If Charles must be King because of succession rules I'd rather not see Camilla as Queen as I think they behaved shamelessly and selfishly.

Diana was 20 when she married Charles and he was 32. Given that age difference, he should have had more sense and integrity than to marry a young woman with whom he had little in common, especially as he had a good deal more experience with women - in particular Mrs Parker Bowles - and even as he married his affections were really elsewhere.

I don't really care who takes over from the Queen but I do think some of the remarks about Diana are nasty. None of us is privy to what happened in that marriage but my feeling is that Charles did not demonstrate a great deal of wisdom or integrity from the outset.

To be fair to Charles, I don't think he was really allowed to. It was expected that his bride would be chosen for him, to te extend that her virginity had to be proven. He wasn't exactly a 'man of the world' despite his age, was he?

No matter what has happened in the past, there's little doubt that Charles certainly appears to be considerably happier and more relaxed with Camilla than at any other point in his life. I would imagine that's worth its weight in gold to anyone, no matter who you are.

I have been reading a very good book about the last days of Henry VIII and the thought has suddenly struck me - why is our monarch still called Defender of the Faith? This was a title given to Henry VIII by the Pope for his defence of the Roman Catholic faith. Henry should have given up the title when he broke with Rome and it really has nothing to do with our Protestant monarchs.

maybe someone could explain the fascination with Diana ? I never understood the mass grief when she died ,she was someone none of us knew ,we only saw the Diana the palace and the press and later Diana herself wanted us to see,she was very privileged young woman...someone on here said Charles shouldn't have married her she was happy working in the nursery...... that made me laugh ,maybe she was as a stop gap but that was while she waited to make a "good" marriage and she and her family knew who they had in their sight...very similar to Kate,whose mother moved her from one uni to another because William was attending it .These things are not left to chance..anyone who believes they are is naive in the extreme.And WHy does it still bother people who aren't in their immediate circle 20 years on ? Is it living life through someone else becuase yours is somehow lacking?I'm a republican but what or who they marry ,sleep with etc doesn't bother me a bit...I just want the whole shebang abolished

Lets say Diana went into it as a girl and thought Charles would love her ( i think not as he was always with Camila) then, maybe she felt a bit thwarted. now come on charles, I'm younger and more of a "catch". He actually said no, he loved Camilla. Then she wanted everyone to love her, hence the doe eyes. That actually makes me role my own. Then we had countless Diana affairs and not one really wanted to get involved. She, in reality should have been graceful and stopped flaunting. Gone off and found someone she really may have loved.

How could Diana have known so little of the private life of Charles , he dated one of her sisters before her. And that rubbish she said about she just knew she had to keep herself tidy before marriage .

Did she Annie? You mean as in " keeping herself virginal "?

Yes Chewbacca, it was in her book which was published under Andrew Mortons name . Do you recall s day or so later she was in tears at an event, dhe was wearing blue ? , think a bomb had gone off at Buck house , it was said later she regretted writing the book , I bet she did

I'll bet she did too Annie. I know she had problems with mental health etc but I do think that she was terribly young and niaeve when she was suddenly thrust into the public glare and it would have messed with anyone's head. I do clearly remember Charles being asked, at their public engagement, if he loved her and he replied "....yes, whatever love is". Not exactly a good omen was it?

I thought it was very Charles at that time Chewbacca , not romantic was it . A butler at Clarence House , where she spent the night before the marriage, claimed she was cycling around the grounds singing tomorrow I will be PofW

We will never know the full truth but I do think the interview her father gave at the time of the engagement explains much and what she said about Andrew in her book

Poor Diana, fairy tale turned nightmare. She was very attractive but that's often not enough is it? Camilla is a totally different kind of person and does seem to make Charles very happy. And anyone who gets a second chance at happiness should grab it imo. Life is short.

She was a damaged child, if blame must be laid at anyone's feet then for me it should be johnnie Spencer her father

I think Charles has been a much happier person since his marriage to Camilla , and I mean from childhood

Interesting you should mention her father because I'd always thought her problems went back to when her mother left the family. But either way, it was a sad childhood for her. Totally agree re Charles. Don't begrudge anyone having a second attempt at happiness, not at all.

Her father hit her mother

I think she had a crisis just before the marriage and wanted to call it off but her sisters told her she had to go through with it because 'Duch - your face is already on all the tea towels'.

He was equally reluctant.