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mrsmopp Thu 23-Feb-17 23:12:34

Prince Charles is campaigning for Camilla to be Queen Camilla when he becomes King. I would not like her to be Queen. I think they both behaved appallingly in carrying on their affair when they were both married to someone else. They had no concern for the hurt, upset and heartbreak they caused Diana and Andrew PB. They just thought it was perfectly OK to act as they did. It's 80 years since Edward abdicated to marry a divorced woman, and Margaret was not able to marry Peter Townsend, even though she was unlikely to ascend the throne. So what rules have changed? He has what he wanted and married her, but making her Queen is condoning their adultery.
But I think I'm in the minority in my view.

Ana Fri 03-Mar-17 15:21:09

that is why she was allowed a divorce from her husband ? confused

merlotgran Fri 03-Mar-17 15:27:17

Andrew Parker Bowles was known as the man who laid down his wife for his country. grin

He didn't hang about before he re-married.

Ana Fri 03-Mar-17 15:29:47

Pictures on the internet mean nothing. Camilla and Diana were never friends. Diana knew about Camilla before she married Charles - I really don't know where you're getting you're getting your information from Yorkshiregel but it's not reliable!

MissAdventure Fri 03-Mar-17 16:47:21

Andrew Mortons book states that in the beginning, Charles and Diana were happy. He was quite enchanted by her - then he got to know her!
He found her moods childish, and difficult to deal with, and he was jealous that the public clamoured to see his wife on royal walkabouts.
As I have said, I'm no particular fan of the royals, or Diana, but she was my age, and William the same age as my daughter, so I have an interest.

Anniebach Fri 03-Mar-17 17:00:31

Andrew Parker Bowles was a philander throughout his marriage, he dated Anne too.

Talking to someone at a polo match is no proof of a friendship.

Diana threw herself down stairs when pregnant with her first child. That's taking a need for attention rather far.

If we step back from the evil Charles and Camilla and Saint Diana , if there was an affair in the early years of the marriage it was wrong but a woman in an unhappy marriage and s man married to very mentally disturbed woman I suppose they found peace with each other

For me, what ever happened in that marriage Charles must have suffered greatly when Diana died, enough is enough and revenge is something I will not agree with.

MissAdventure Fri 03-Mar-17 17:02:08

I don't think its revenge.. surely nobody is that obsessed with Diana to want revenge?

Anniebach Fri 03-Mar-17 17:07:13

I think so, I have heard people say she shouldn't be queen because she is taking more from Diana

MissAdventure Fri 03-Mar-17 17:23:35

Yes, I suppose, thinking about it, some people do get caught up in it far more than is healthy.
smile

Ana Fri 03-Mar-17 17:29:00

But quite frankly I'd be very surprised if Camilla was that bothered what title she has when Charles becomes King. It seems to be him making it his mission to have her named as Queen.

merlotgran Fri 03-Mar-17 17:42:34

I think a referendum is the only way to settle it. grin

Beammeupscottie Fri 03-Mar-17 17:45:52

No one should worry about Diana being a sort of loser here. It is her son that will eventually become King. Be content with that as I feel sure she would be.

MissAdventure Fri 03-Mar-17 17:47:36

I think there should be a debate thread on here - look how diplomatic we've all been. smile

Anniebach Fri 03-Mar-17 17:48:58

It shouldn't be his mission though, it is her right Ana .

Ana Fri 03-Mar-17 18:09:04

Why is it her right Annie?

Plenty of examples have been given previously on this thread of wives/husbands who didn't automatically become 'queen' or 'king' when their spouse inherited the throne.

Anniebach Fri 03-Mar-17 18:23:25

I missed those Anna, I cannot think of one, think it was .george 4 who wanted to take the title from his wife Caroline when he tried to divorce her . Since Victoria all the wives have taken the title queen consort

Ana Fri 03-Mar-17 18:38:11

Well that's fine then - I thought the point was that Charles wanted Camilla to be Queen Camilla, not consort.

Anniebach Fri 03-Mar-17 19:20:58

Called queen but the correct title is queen consort Yet poor old Albert and Phil had to settle for prince consort . I wonder how they will reinvent themselves after queenie dies

Jalima Fri 03-Mar-17 19:34:09

Yorkshiregel I think you're right that Charles and Diana looked happy in some of the photos (I posted one earlier in the thread).

I think if Diana had accepted that he was going to continue to have mistresses the marriage could have continued happily enough and he would have accepted her indiscretions after the 'heir and the spare' had arrived. However, she didn't accept that, had a fairytale idea of what it would be like married to her prince.

I'm not saying that she was wrong at all, just that her expectations were those of a normal wife and she did not marry into a normal family and she was not mature enough to accept the status quo.

merlotgran Fri 03-Mar-17 22:16:44

Camilla looking after Charlotte on the Tracey Ullman show tonight.....Absolutely brilliant!

I once drove to the village with a mug of tea on the car roof. Didn't spill much grin

Jalima Fri 03-Mar-17 23:12:52

grin

Norah Fri 17-Mar-17 13:51:04

Funny! It seems William is like his parents. Having a ski party without his cute little woman. smile

Tallulah57 Fri 17-Mar-17 14:15:38

I would be most unhappy if Camilla were to be crowned Queen and I think if Charles does eventually become King it will be the end of the Monarchy as we know it. I am afraid Charles has ideas above his station, believing he has the right to meddle and interfere in matters of state. Charles needs to remember that he is in his privileged position by virtue of his birth and nothing else, he has not been elected and should look to the example set by his mother who has done a tremendous job and has been a brilliant asset to this country.

Anniebach Fri 17-Mar-17 14:29:02

What matters of state has he interfered with?

Ilovecheese Fri 17-Mar-17 14:39:54

How can a Prince have "Ideas above his station" The only one above his "station" is the Queen? (I tried to do a grin to show this was lighthearted, but couldn't do it)

Penstemmon Fri 17-Mar-17 14:51:52

Once she is the legitimate wife of the king she is automatically the queen. He really does not need to campaign. Royalty have always had extra marital affairs..it goes with the job! Even Queen Vic was 'close' to various men after Albert's demise.
And I am a republican and could be perfectly happy without them. They make not one iota of difference to my daily life.. nor anyone elses really unless they are employed by them!