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MamaCaz Fri 20-Jan-17 08:28:50

The world holds its breath as America prepares for an almighty Trump!

Sorry folks - childish, I know, but that has been going through my head for weeks now and the temptation to share it finally got the better of me. blush

On that note, I will now disappear for the weekend.

Araabra Fri 20-Jan-17 16:10:30

G. Bush Sr. was POTUS 1989 to 1983. Not sure where 1981 to 1989 enters, that was dreadful Reagan's reign.

Araabra Fri 20-Jan-17 16:13:38

(First Page) Urban Dictionary: "Slang term for the most inept president the United States has ever had.
George "Dubya" Bush
Did you know that the stock market dropped again today because Dubya made a speech? "

Ana Fri 20-Jan-17 16:17:00

Perhaps you have a different Google to me Ankers mine brings up pages if I type in 'Dubya'

Same here, Jalima. How strange that there should apparently be different Googles!

M0nica Fri 20-Jan-17 16:27:30

I have just typed Dubya, nothing else, into google and all but one of the entries on the first page refer to George W Bush.

He was widely called that in all the media, broadcast, online and print.

Ankers Fri 20-Jan-17 16:37:51

Not sure how I missed it, in more ways than one.

I am though a lot younger than most grans on here, and cant say I was very interested in politics, even 20 years ago. And certainly not american politics.

MawBroon Fri 20-Jan-17 16:38:25

www.dubyaspeak.com/best

If anybody feels the need for a smile today. (Remember "Do not misunderestimate me" grin )

Ankers Fri 20-Jan-17 16:43:28

There are some howlers in there! grin

Araabra Fri 20-Jan-17 16:44:05

Such an idiot warmonger. Dreadful little man.

Jalima Fri 20-Jan-17 16:49:02

Thanks MawBroon grin

I like this one:
Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better.

Did someone say he had never had a passport until he became President?

Marmark1 Fri 20-Jan-17 17:06:47

Ok,where was I when all the good things happened,in the last years all I've seen is wars,unemployment,NHS crisis,schools with long waiting lists,police ignoring you unless it's a murder or a racial issue,the rich getting a bleddy site richer,the African people still starving,none of the presidents or prime ministers have solved anything.
So the people,that's me,are asking for help,what's wrong with that,or don't we matter because we're just the Woking class.

MawBroon Fri 20-Jan-17 17:08:49

Surely not just in Woking? grin

trisher Fri 20-Jan-17 17:10:05

Maybe he was foretelling the future
A political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as your Commander-in-Chief.

Jalima Fri 20-Jan-17 18:04:08

Well, Dubya came to power in 2001 Ankers (16 years ago) and by 2003 had managed to drag us into the Iraq War with Blair's enthusiastic help.
Not sure how you missed it all even if you weren't interested in politics.

Jalima Fri 20-Jan-17 18:07:16

Today is gonna be the day
That they're gonna throw it back to you
By now you should have somehow
Realised what you gotta do
I'm gonna build a Wonderwall
You're my Wonderwall .....

nancan Fri 20-Jan-17 18:23:40

On a slightly different note. Myself and DH were in Barbados when Obama was inaugurated. We laughed when a man was shouting "Come and buy your Obama water". Just thinking is he still there shouting "Come and buy your Trump water" ?

MamaCaz Fri 20-Jan-17 18:49:37

Jalima grin your last post made me laugh.
Before anyone asks, yes, I did say in my OP that I was about to disappear for the weekend, but it turns out that I still have (intermittent) internet access, so am managing to follow the responses between drop-outs. smile

Peaseblossom Fri 20-Jan-17 20:59:30

Doubt Trump could be any worse, whatever you think of him.
The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of the USA. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavours. The Red, White and Blue’s epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president.

Araabra Fri 20-Jan-17 21:14:01

hear hear

M0nica Fri 20-Jan-17 22:37:50

I think all the shock horror over Trump has been vastly overdone. He is not the first deeply flawed man to be elected into the post, even in our lifetime. Think tricky Dicky (Richard Nixon) or even Dubya (George W Bush), both did immense damage to their nation. Arguably ISIS and the spread of terrorism are the direct results of Bush instigating the Iraq War.

What we have seen with the election of Trump and the Brexit referendum is the triumph of democracy. Both were marginal/procedural victories but the victors won by the laws that governed the separate elections and if you have won, you have won and it doesn't really matter whether it is by a few percent or by having most electors in an electoral college. It may not be be the result that the most vocal in either country wanted, but the elections were free and fair (I very much doubt if Russians intervention, true or not,turned a single vote).

However this is where democracy needs to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. We preach enough about democracy to other countries, now we must show our belief in it. Those opposed to Trump and staunch remainers, must accept the majority vote and work with it. Democrats in the US must follow the accepted ways of constitutional opposition and those who voted remain must now work towards the best possible Brexit. I voted remain, but now believe that all my efforts should go towards ensuring we are out of Europe as soon as possible and finding a new route to peace and prosperity.

Today Africa has shown us how to deal, peacefully, with those who will not accept the results of the ballot box. The defeated President of Gambia has finally been persuaded accept he lost the election and must vacate the presidency. It was done by the loyalty of the Gambian army to a new democratically elected President and a quiet show of force by the Economic Community of West African States (Ecowas).

Jalima Fri 20-Jan-17 22:51:13

Who said that Reagan was a terrible President? Someone further up thread, cannot read it all now, it's late.

However, I have just heard reported on the BBC that people were very worried when Reagan was elected as they thought he would be useless, just a 'cowboy' but that he turned out to be one of the best Presidents of all time.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4631421.stm

Jalima Fri 20-Jan-17 22:53:00

I realise that the report is an old one, but I heard it reported again tonight.

Anya Sat 21-Jan-17 08:27:09

Peaseblossom I think you will find that the world-wide economic recession which started at the end of 2007 (as Obama took office in January 2008) was responsible for much of America's economic problems, and could have been much worse under another president. Indeed much caused by the likes of Bush and the cost of his wars.
The USA was knee deep into in debt (mainly to China!!) way before Obama,

I'm not aware of any scandals surrounding Obama and family either?

As far as foreign policy failures, the Bushes rushed to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, all spectacular failures when the USA was left with egg on its face, and too many body bags, I can perhaps understand the reluctance to repeat such actions.

At least Obama conducted himself on the international scene with dignity and gravitas; something we are unlikely to see in Trump.

BlueBelle Sat 21-Jan-17 09:01:11

How can you overdo Trump MOnica doesn't he do that quite adequetly for himself Blown up idiotic warmongering racist who parents belonged to KKK says it all really I
agree entirely with you Anya Obama inherited a mess from incompetent Bush and did the best he could with his hands tightly tied, he conducted himself with dignity and tried very hard to implement a lot more than was actually ever achieved like the gun stuff Presidents have little clout if the noises behind aren't singing the same song

Marmark1 Sat 21-Jan-17 09:56:28

Obamas hands were tied,what's the point of him being there then?
Trump looks like a man who wouldn't allow anyone to tie his hands.Go Trump,put your wise words into action.Help the people,there desperate,that's why they voted for you.

MawBroon Sat 21-Jan-17 14:23:28

www.standard.co.uk/news/world/barack-obama-boards-helicopter-and-says-final-goodbye-to-american-people-a3446111.html

Found this very moving.sad