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Open letter to all Gners

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GandTea Mon 06-Jun-16 17:46:45

I have been a member and regular contributor to GN since its inception, many of you will know me as Pompa.

I have always tried to be helpful to those that need it where my skills are appropriate. I have always been compassionate to those in trouble and always tried to inject a little humour into my posts.

I am not racist, feminist or any other form of ist (perhaps a bit of a pessimist now)

In all the years I have been here I have not knowingly been reported.

But I have now been reported ( I guess for racism because of my humorous thread in the Gardening forum regarding immigrant Spanish slugs.

GN is no longer the great site it used to be, it has become very unpleasant on many threads, dominated by a few posters.

Many GNers are now afraid to post for fear of verbal retribution.

Humour that is in the least edgy is condemned by a few.

Please, please will those Gners that want GN to become the fun site that it was again please speak up.

I am now leaving GN, I'm sure that there are those that are now cheering as they have won, but to the rest of my friends,
Love
Pompa

Maggiemaybe Tue 07-Jun-16 08:30:50

How odd! There'll always be someone ready to flounce their petticoats at the slightest thing, sadly. But what was HQ's response? The thread's still there with no wrist slapping on it. Did they do that by private message?

Tegan Tue 07-Jun-16 08:33:42

From what I can gather [as I've said before] they just pointed out that someone had reported it. It was GandTea who then asked for the thread to be removed...I don't think there was ever any intention of pulling the thread, or making anyone leave#imayhavgotitwrongthough

sunseeker Tue 07-Jun-16 08:39:56

It's great to be reading such a supportive thread! I appreciate some posters have very strong beliefs and views, however, resorting to insults and attempting to demean anyone who disagrees with those views is just plain bullying. Like kittylester once that happens on a thread I no longer post on it - which is probably the aim! I'm with GandTea lets try to put the fun back in GN!

thatbags Tue 07-Jun-16 08:40:46

I'm wondering why pompaG&T even knows that someone complained about the bloody immigrant snails thread title. Why did he need to know that someone was being so silly and touchy as to report it? Why couldn't whoever received and felt they had to respond to the complaint just deal with the complainer, especially as it wasn't bloody offensive!?

Seriously, HQ. For goodness' sake! Looks as if a bit more mod training wouldn't go amiss. Someone taking offence is not necessarily an indication of there being anything to take offence at.

janeainsworth Tue 07-Jun-16 08:43:09

My thoughts exactly Bags.

granjura Tue 07-Jun-16 08:47:18

@thatbags, re 'I'm one 'guilty' of changing username quite often, though not for a while now, but it's all there'

but why? Why change names, if it is not to deceive, eg to make people you have 'crossed'in the past think you have 'gone'?
I possibly have had the most attacks, from individuals, but mainly from a whole group- both on here and by pm- but I would never dream of leaving and changing to a name others would not immdiately recognise as being mine. What is the point?

In GandTea's case, I can see how this was best perhaps.

Ana, I never left- I was banned- because some of you requested it- without any of you being aware of the reasons. When I came back after a long absence, I just put the name back to front without even noticing.

I've had many contacts from people saying they can't believe the attacks on me, clearly from a few individuals who work together- and who have, most of them, changed names many a time. They all know of course who they are- but hide it from the rest- which, as said, is just not fair.

thatbags Tue 07-Jun-16 08:49:38

I had various reasons for changing my username, gj. I do not wish to share those reasons with you so you can imagine whatever you like. I won't mind, whatever it is. Have fun smile

thatbags Tue 07-Jun-16 08:50:05

I won't mind if you remain baffled either wink

granjura Tue 07-Jun-16 08:56:22

If as you say 'it's all there' for all to see- so why oh why?

Baffled indeed, whether you care or not. For me, it's plain deception- as those who have crossed your path, or your words before, don't know.

Whatever- clealy against GN rules- and leaving and reconnect as a pseudo different person is as said 'just not cricket' afaiac.

kittylester Tue 07-Jun-16 08:57:01

I don't care what you are called anyway bags so long as you keep posting!

Tegan Tue 07-Jun-16 08:57:18

Maybe it would have been better for the whole thing to have been conducted privately? Gransnet has never been the Utopia that some people remember it as; I, for one, left several years ago after some hurtful comments [which were then backed up by other people] and others have done the same.It was actually the 'backing up' comments that hurt me the most as I knew the intial comment was unfounded.

sunseeker Tue 07-Jun-16 08:58:06

I changed my username once a couple of years ago - because I felt I could be identified by my old username. I can't imagine most of those who change usernames do so in order to deceive.

granjura Tue 07-Jun-16 08:59:24

It's only after one new user attacked me again and again, and in a very personal and nasty way- that others pmed to say 'well do do know who THAT is don't you?' - which is quite a shock as I had no idea- and it feels like deception. When it happens again and again, much more so.

No bee, no bonnet. It does not feel nice at all.

thatbags Tue 07-Jun-16 09:03:24

But you are not deceived by my name changes, jura, and nobody is deceived by Jingle's either!

Thank you, kitty smile

sunseeker Tue 07-Jun-16 09:04:29

gj I am sorry you have experienced personal attacks which should never have happened and I don't know how that was resolved or if you reported it to GNHQ, however I still think that the majority of those who change names do not do so in order to deceive.

GandTea Tue 07-Jun-16 09:04:47

The reason that I knew it had been reported was that GNHQ contacted me by email, as it appears they do. They did not say who had reported me or the specific reason, just that they wanted me to change the title of the thread to something that could not be complained about. What was said between myself and GNHQ will remain private, but it was cordial.
I think it reasonable that reported remain undisclosed, as people would be afraid to report.

thatbags Tue 07-Jun-16 09:05:18

It could be argued that anyone who doesn't use their real name as their username is being deceptive. I'm not sure I agree that they are, but even if they are practising some kind of deception, why does it matter? Nobody is harmed by it.

thatbags Tue 07-Jun-16 09:07:10

Yes, I presummed that was why you were contacted, PGT, but I think it was unnecessary for them to contact you at all. My point is that there was no need to change the thread title and HQ should have realised that, told the reporter so, and left it at that.

I hope HQers are reading this.

granjura Tue 07-Jun-16 09:11:48

sunseeker- thanks. It just depends of course. In many cases, some members suddenly find themselves attacked by people who have changed names after flouncing with great panache- and coming back to continue same attacks under a different name. This is what I am talking about. They know who they are, and they know it is clearly against forum rules.

Weirdly enough, some who now say 'what's the problem- no har meant' are the very same that sent pms re the identity of name changers, and re the fact they were baffled by who they were.
Funny old world.

GandTea Tue 07-Jun-16 09:12:23

Yes TB's, I hope GNHQ are realising that many of us want the old fun GN back. It was not always PC (in fact quite a lot of the time) but it was always respectful to others and fun, we were all friends.

Teetime Tue 07-Jun-16 09:13:03

I add to the clamour - please don't go - I have pm'd you too. flowers

Tegan Tue 07-Jun-16 09:14:18

Maybe the whole thing should have remained private, though. As it is it's turned out to be a bit of a witch hunt and given people an excuse to get their knives out against people they don't like sad.Time for a bit of 'time out' for me for a while, methinks.

annsixty Tue 07-Jun-16 09:16:05

I have no axe to grind and no-one (well just one) has been unkind to me but any one who believes GN in not "cliquey" is deluding themselves. I have seen very indefensible posts to anyone who has disagreed with an "in"member.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 07-Jun-16 09:19:06

You were barred gj?!!!! Why FFS?!!! The buggers! hmm

GandTea Tue 07-Jun-16 09:20:11

In defense of GNHQ, they would not easily know if a Gner had multiple identities if each was under a different email address. I have about 6 email addresses that I use to keep things separate.