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What or Pardon-Neither!!!!

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trisher Tue 14-Jul-15 10:59:45

There's a Gransnet poll on facebook asking would you say "What" or "Pardon". I'm sorry but if you said "Pardon" when I was growing up you would be answered by "Why? What have you done?" Pardon is used to apologise when you have done something socially unacceptable. "What" is plain rude. The correct form of speech if you don't hear is "Excuse me I didn't hear." or "I'm sorry I didn't hear". Come on Gransnet get someone who at least knows how to use language. What really surprised me was 74% said they would say "Pardon" Really!!!

thatbags Fri 17-Jul-15 14:24:44

There are no 'shoulds' about what words to use when you didn't hear something, except that one should be polite. If one's manner is not impolite then whatever one says is not impolite. This principle is really quite simple. I don't understand why so many people seem to think the words matter more than the manner.

thatbags Fri 17-Jul-15 14:25:05

PS What is Miranda, please?

trisher Fri 17-Jul-15 14:49:21

Comedy show on TV- Miranda Hart. She has a very posh friend who is always answering her mobile and telling the others-"bear with, bear with"

thatbags Fri 17-Jul-15 14:55:35

Ah! Thanks, trisher.

Conni7 Fri 17-Jul-15 16:16:27

Wouldn't use either! I just say "Sorry" and people seem to understand.

graninthemist Fri 17-Jul-15 16:41:53

What??

Roxannediane Fri 17-Jul-15 21:34:47

I was taught to say 'what' by a very grammatically correct English teacher at a grammar school in the 60's!!
She commented that common people (the hoi poloi) said 'pardon'!!
Reminds me of the toilet and lavatory debate! Thankfully someone invented the loo!!!

cupcake1 Sat 18-Jul-15 18:58:10

Pardon every time! I cannot believe some of the comments made by other Gransnetters! I do say Sorry with an enquiring look on some occasions but What- never ! Rude rude rude and if someone was to say that to me I would ignore them completely and would certainly not repeat myself!!

Gemmag Tue 21-Jul-15 18:47:02

Pardon is an absolute no no for all occasions, pardon me is even worse.
What kind of person say's 'what', this is very vulgar.
Class system is alive and kicking, I'm afraid!.
Poor Roxannediane, teacher not so grammatically correct after all but 'loo' is fine. shock winktennis

Ana Tue 21-Jul-15 18:57:19

Pardon??? shock

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:23:45

Havers (pronounced hayvers; Scottish for 'nonsense'!)

Gemmag Wed 22-Jul-15 07:52:06

Don't you mean Nigel Havers?, didn't know he was Scottish. He doesn't speak with a Scottish accent, sounds quite post really confused

Gemmag Wed 22-Jul-15 07:57:08

Forget to add that Nigel Havers would NEVER say 'pardon' or 'what' did you say or 'pardon'!!!!. smile

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:58:29

Who is Nigel Havers?

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:59:05

Oh, him. Just googled. Shrug.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:59:46

Actually, I suspect he would say any of those if it were in his script. wink

Alea Wed 22-Jul-15 08:15:31

You know when threads get quite surreal? hmm

Elegran Wed 22-Jul-15 09:09:25

You mean when everyone starts havering, alea?

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 09:11:23

Good bit o' 'averin' never did nobody no 'arm.

Oh 'eck! Apostrophes are taking over.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 09:12:03

Good bit of 'averin'....

See! I told you! They're takin' over.

Alea Wed 22-Jul-15 09:18:41

Exactly Elegran and when "havering" leads to Nigel Havers, which I always thought more of a statement than a proper name . . . . grin

Elegran Wed 22-Jul-15 09:19:11

I must say that Nigel Havers is one of the bits of posh totty on TV (or used to be, I don't think I've seen him in anything lately. Is he getting past it?)

Elegran Wed 22-Jul-15 09:20:44

It is the stream of consciousness, alea

Elegran Wed 22-Jul-15 09:21:59

Though sometimes the stream does go down the drain.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 10:05:32

And it goes down with a gurgling chuckle mc-chuckle.