The flipping Idiot strikes again! No need to read - I just have a need to vent!!

How on earth could he present her with a 'company' car and a fuel card?
Sounds somewhat dubious to me.....
Oh dear kitty, how convoluted a web some people weave, I do feel for you, having to deal with the aftermath.....

Like all of his grand gestures loopy, not quite what they appear to be!

kitty I'm so sorry this goes on and on and your poor daughter!I hope her business does fantastically well and she can tell him to go run!!

for you and DD on second thoughts, two very large s

He's playing the control game and your DD has fallen for it. He is in control of her because he is in control of the car. She needs to tell him to keep the car and take up your offer of another that she can afford to run. Then she needs to get her maintenance on a legal footing so that it can be docked directly from his wages if he fails to pay.

If I were her, I'd tell him to stick his car where the sun don't shine. And anything else that enables him to play control games.

kitty I have every sympathy! I daren't put on a public site what our idiot is doing at the moment!
He may well end up in prison. More stuff for dd to deal with!

Oh, Lona, I'm sorry you are still having problems. They sound much worse than ours too.

Vampirequeen, DH and I decided at lunch time that we are going to work on that with her. She is so worn down by him that she sometimes takes the easy option - but she is getting stronger.

I hope you spotted that I merely said 'him' rather than anything else I could have called him DH isn't quite so restrained!!

I would accept nothing from him. Less pain that way.

I agree with vampirequeen that it is all about him wanting to be in control. I know the scenario only too well! If you can manage it, providing her with an economical car would help. I would suggest buying it in your name and insuring her to drive it, so that it does not count as an asset if there is a dispute over maintenance.

I agree, tell him to take his car and shove it. Life would be a lot easier without him yanking the strings.

Perhaps you should invoke my curse again kitty

But so sorry to hear that he's still causing upset.

What would happen to him if the company knew she had it?

I would dump it back on his doorstep forthwith minus the child car seats and leave him to it.
What an A* H***.

I think shysal has a good point.

Phoenix could you do something a little stronger please!

Two problems with your scenario soon, she has two little ones to keep and, while we can help in the short term, it's not fair on our other children. Also, he should pay for his children!

Good idea Nellie, phone his company and ask them to collect it?

It's his company!! But I love your description nellie

Oh, didn't realise kitty, sorry!
He isn't 'saving her money' if she's forking out for tyres etc., do hope Phoenix can conjure up a strong curse ( intriguing thought!)

The last one involved piles and all sorts of revolting things and, in fact, he does have piles so a really strong one might do the trick!

For a moment I thought you were talking about concrete piles (Mafia-style!)

Tempting! Very very tempting!!!

I'll bring the cement and the shovel........ :-)

You could use them afterward Lona, then Nina and we could justkeep passing them round

Oh yes!!!

Kitty your DD should accept nothing from the idiot, other than properly arranged maintenance payments.
Being messed around by him is not an easy option for her or anyone else.

You say that helping her is not fair to your other children - have you asked them? They might be willing for you to help her with money if it reduces stress all round.

Your DD should use legal means to get whatever she can out of him and shouldn't put up with his stupid games any longer.