Girl Guide leader expelled from post.

Oh that is such rubbish. If she identifies as a girl she's not going to cause any harm. There are loads of girls in the Scouts these days anyway. Alright, sleeping and toilet facilities are separate, but still.

She is a narrow minded, old-fashioned woman, with not enough empathy to be in charge of the young.

When I was a cub mistress we would have jamborees with all cubs and brownies in the county, cubs and brownies were not even allowed to share a coach.

While being fully aware of who were girls and who were boys, right *BlueBelle"?

My granddaughter was a scout and at times they all slept in dormitories together when on trips

Starlady you think she should have made her objection known, then carried on 'just following orders' while disregarding the risk to child safety?

(Presumably that is what other Guide, Brownie, Rainbow leaders are doing - without even objecting.)

I was in the Guide movement from the age of 7 through to my 20s. I agree with NanaandGrampy, one benefit was no boys!

Most of the time, too, the Guides were better at things than the Scouts, although as girls got more adventurous they found the Scouts catered better for some things, I think.

As for boys identifying as girls and sharing facilties, I think Rainbows, Brownies and Guides are too young to cope with this. It's not fair to expect them to, although it is a bit unfair on genuinely female-identifying boys. However, as they get older it's perhaps a different matter.

I'm with the Guide leader on this one.

The world has gone nuts!

I was a girl guide throughout my childhood and one of the benefits was no boys. It was really that simple.

This is equality gone crazy.

Well, she did more than just "object," she knowingly broke the rules, according to the article. I understand why, and I feel badly for her child. But this was the risk she took.

IMO, a policy like this should not have been implemented w/o canvassing all the parents/all the troops and seeing how everybody felt about it. This is a very sensitive issue both for transgenders and their families and other kids and their families. These are the kinds of situations that arise when officials just force things on people.

I might contribute to that. Poor woman. What a ridiculous situation.

There is a crowdfunder to help the expelled leader challenge GirlGuiding on this, in court.
www.crowdjustice.com/case/expelled-from-girlguiding/?fbclid=IwAR3VDLit3rCS6UknX7bpt8cm_hMachCABaV4CcWn0mYkYHjvBLmD6rzAyME

Yes I agree Cherrytree59 It's difficult enough finding volunteers without them being subjected to upholding these policies.
I'm sure parents will be watching developments with concern, I know I would be.
It will be a great shame if the Scouting movement is adversely affected by all this.

The ex-leader is considered to be such a persona-non-grata that her 5 year old daughter cannot join Rainbows.

"But this has had an effect not just on me. My 5 year old daughter cannot join Rainbows because of the withdrawal of my membership. She talks about wanting to go on Rainbow sleepovers and I am not allowed to accompany her to any meetings, outings, or residentials."

(It is normal for parents to accompany Rainbows)

Another day another loony idea.

The girl guide leader is doing her job.
She has a duty of care whilst in loco parentis.

If this continues no longer will there be a Guide, Scouts or similar movement willing to take children or young people to camp.

I'm sure if things continue along this crazy path there will soon be a shortage of willing volunteers.

Parents will no longer allow their children or youngsters to go on camping trips etc.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7318521/Girl-Guides-leader-sue-chiefs-expelled-objecting-boys-identifying-female.html?fbclid=IwAR0ytF45dLaFyDDn4LE3mPGYWxzLshN_eDqe5zM9wgZz8bfIIU0g0VwO3Nc