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BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 15:36:36

The Thai boys
As the other thread is entitled Good news and as a man has just died in the rescue I thought it needed updating
It s so very sad to think this man has lost his life whilst trying to save these lads
He was swimming to take them oxygen but didn’t leave himself enough for getting back he was 38 years old
I didn’t realise it’s a 5 hour swim to get to the boys ledge and then a six hour swim ( against the flow) going back
The monsoons are expected on Sunday it’s horrendous

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44734385

Hope the link works

annep Fri 06-Jul-18 15:41:38

Oh that is so so very sad. I'm really sorry to hear this.

Panache Fri 06-Jul-18 15:45:06

Absolutely dreadful news and although this man has died a great hero, that will not exactly bring him back to those he leaves behind.
Every condolence to his family whom must be devastated.

It is such a highly fraught rescue mission and little wonder something like this has happened,although well planned and highly skilled....... but of course this was ....what the whole watching world...... least wanted.

It will make the rest of the mission very nervous indeed and those poor boys must be in some very tense states.

Such a race against time too.

merlotgran Fri 06-Jul-18 16:03:01

I posted on the 'Good News' thread that I think it's insensitive of FIFA to offer the boys a trip to the World Cup final if they make it out in time!

This is on the same day that a very brave man has lost his life trying to help them. angry

The parents must be in agony just wanting them home, safe and recovering both emotionally and physically not jetting off to Russia!

Maybe IABU. I know football fans are willing their teams to win but most of the world is holding its breath over the plight of these poor boys.

Wheniwasyourage Fri 06-Jul-18 16:13:21

The whole thing just doesn't bear thinking about, does it? Those poor boys and their poor families, and now the death of one of the brave divers. It does rather make every day worries seem trivial. I keep thinking of my DGSs who are in that age range and who are football daft. sad

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 16:13:48

I m afraid I can’t see this ending well These boys are not swimmers and if a trained diver can get it wrong I can’t see how they can get these boys a six mile swim out of this cave complex, parts of it are only I metre high it is going to be horrendous

ninathenana Fri 06-Jul-18 17:27:24

Every life is as valuable as another and I'm very sorry to read this but I am curious as to whether it was one of the British experts who sadly lost his life.
Anyone know ?

tanith Fri 06-Jul-18 17:34:16

No it wasn’t the poor man was an ex Thai navy diver, very sad.

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 17:56:38

There’s a picture in my link ninathenana

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 18:18:50

I have read that the main problem is that none of the rescue divers have experience rescuing children It is doubtful if this current situation has ever happened

It is always adults who come to grief and are rescued.

An experienced rescue diver is there who reckons that the caves aren't that difficult to navigate and the water is shallow so the oxygen lasts well.
Apparantly the deeper the dive the less time oxygen lasts and the caves aren't that deep with water.
The water is going down by one or two centimetres an hour because of the pumping out.

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 18:19:26

I was also surprised to read that the coach for the team is only fifteen years old.

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 18:38:51

He’s 25 gmelon not sure where you read that he was 15 but it must have been a misprint but he was living in a Buddhist temple from 12 to 22 as his family had all been killed in a tragedy, he joined the football team three years ago

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 18:47:58

Oh, thank you Bluebelle.
Twenty five does sound a lot more sensible.

You say he lost his family as a child. This young man has the most appalling misfortune in life.

Today or tomorrow they say for a rescue attempt. Then there is a decision as to taking which children first, the weakest or the strongest.

These tragic events bring the world together , waiting and hoping. Miners stuck underground, children trapped in wells. Those with the know how fly across the world to help.

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 19:01:24

There are volunteers from many countries US UK Belgium China 1000 Thai SEALS I m not sure where you read that the water is shallow Gmelen they are pumping it out as fast as they can and it’s filling up the water in the narrow places almost fills them and some areas are only a meter high they are expecting the monsoons to start any day
The oxygen levels are at 15% and should be 21% to be fully functioning The boys are on a ledge in their little area

The article, about the coach is here if you are interested

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/family-friends/thai-cave-coach-lost-entire-family-aged-10/news-story/f707d6791ab0424c4321ce327951a25d

sodapop Fri 06-Jul-18 19:08:57

The whole story is tragic, all those people volunteering to help are so brave. I hope it ends well but I'm not sure it will.

Jalima1108 Fri 06-Jul-18 19:17:36

This sounds more and more worrying.

It sounds like an impossible task to get these boys out, but surely they must try because, if they are left in there for months, albeit with food and water, they will surely run out of oxygen?

Jalima1108 Fri 06-Jul-18 19:18:15

Ah, I see you mentioned that Bluebelle, sorry

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 19:25:14

Thank you for the link Bluebelle.
I read that the water is shallow in terms of diving.
If some of the passages in the cave are just a metre high then that is a shallow amount of water to dive in.

That is the wording of the article that I read, perhaps it could have been worded better explaining that this is a shallow dive for them.
The divers are not doing a deep sea dive.

gmelon Fri 06-Jul-18 19:27:36

I also read that there are oxygen tanks being emptied into the air to provide extra for all the people now down there.
A line to pump oxygen in to where the team is trapped is being put in place if viable.

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 19:34:06

I pray it ends well for the children who are so hopeful now of rescue, it would be doubly tragic if it didn’t.It is a wonder that the coach managed to get them all so far and onto higher ground.

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 19:46:20

Oh i see what you mean about not a deep dive gmelon yes it’s shallow in that sense but anything that comes over your head is deadly

BlueBelle Fri 06-Jul-18 22:16:39

Latest news...... no rescue tonight They only have till Sunday before the expected monsoon oh this is so terrible

BlueBelle Sat 07-Jul-18 05:20:42

Oxygen levels have fallen overnight and the rescuers are really worried they can’t leave it much longer they are really racing against time but haven’t yet found a safe way of getting them back through that tunnel This is horrifying

I m surprised so few people seem interested on GN

Grandma70s Sat 07-Jul-18 05:45:10

I thought when they were found they would be safe. Now I’m not so sure. It’s so frightening.

Willow500 Sat 07-Jul-18 06:46:28

It's just heartbreaking - it was the first thing I thought about when I woke at 3.45 this morning and couldn't get back to sleep thinking about them. Their poor parents sitting up at the top waiting for them sad They are now saying the boys are not ready to dive yet and hundreds of people are in the forest trying to find a suitable site to start drilling a shaft above them. They need oxygen but also to try and get them out that way which would be a far better route than 6 hours through flooded tunnels.