the confidence of youth

Yes, we should try and emulate their optimism.

But it made me realise how much more young people are capable of than we older people, with all our anxieties and cautiousness. Always thinking of what's going to go wrong.

Do we?
I have to say that is a bit of a sweeping generalisation. I am an optimistic 'can do' sort of person and often have to buoy up the younger generation of the family who see obstacles where there might not be any. They are often much more aware of risks.

I don't think optimism depends on age.

Were they optimistic or foolhardy though?
If it hadn’t been for you and your trolley, they wouldn’t have got in into their van, and you say ‘they did tie it up,sort of’ !
Moving pianos is better left to those who have experience of it.
In this case, they were treating it like a freezer.
I am of an optimistic nature generally, but older people do see pitfalls which is actually a good thing, it compensates for actually being older.

Yes, we live and learn. I wish I knew in my youth what I know now.
I made lots of mistakes when young because I didn't think things through, but they were all good lessons.

I wonder Day6 whether in ten years time you might look back and think that you were pretty foolish at the age you are now and wish that you had known a year or two back what you may understand by then.

I have a feeling this is going to turn into another anti Brexit thread

Unpleasant and unnecessary varian I do wonder how you would like a comment directed to you like that?
Not at all I suspect.
This is not a political thread.

Day6 says "we live and learn". We can only hope that we don't stop learning even at our age. It might not take ten years, perhaps in five years or less some hard lessons will be learned.

.....and back to Brexit again! Some people just can’t help it.

Merlot The polemical threads often seem to flare up over a weekend - makes me wonder are people so bored that they pick an argument?

Lucky piano buyer, hope his girlfriend is thrilled.

Blimey. Totally unnecessary Varian. And mean. Why are Remainers forever being nasty to people who voted differently from them?
I was cautious before I voted and weighed up all the options. There were risks both ways. No one can predict the future.
Cannot believe you took yet another swipe on this thread.

DH and I have been chuckling over the fact that although we know many capable and optimistic young people there are some who if left in charge of a milk float would have us thinking, Gawd help us!

Good job not all older people are full of anxieties and cautiousness.

We once sold a three piece suite to a young couple who turned up in a flat bed pick up type vehicle to collect it.In the pouring rain.With no cover to put over the top.
We said we would lend them a cover, and they promised to return it the next day ( they only lived a couple of small villages away.)They never returned it.

We can only hope that we don't stop learning even at our age. although varian has a point - and made me wonder whether or not to take up piano lessons again

I asked DD how she was going to manage to move her piano when she moved house (a very long way, no van!!). 'Oh, I'll manage somehow' she said! I must ask her if she did manage it.

Do you thinking taking up the piano again at my age might be hard varian? Bearing in mind my fingers are not as flexible as they were.

I would welcome your opinion.

Isn't it interesting how often the GN leavers bring up brexit? I never mentioned it, but now it's been raised I have to agree that it does overshadow everything. Perhaps piano lessons might take your mind off it for a little while.

Why do I need to take my mind off it varian?

And who said I was a leaver?

Your posting needs to be considered a bit more carefully before you start chucking slings and arrows.

Yes, varian, how on earth did a thread about young people's confidence and moving pianos attract Brexit? It certainly wasn't mentioned by us Remainers!

Jalima1108, I have had vague thought about my wasted piano lessons at school and whether it would be a good idea to find a piano or even a keyboard to see if I could go back to playing, but I don't suppose I would practice any more now than I did then. Are you in a part of the country where you could arrange to rent a piano for a while, just to see how your fingers cope?

I didn't say you were a leaver Jalima. You have told us many times that you voted Remain. No slings and arrows were directed at you. I am just agreeing with you that piano lessons could take anyone's mind off the subject of brexit for a short while.

Unfortunately piano lessons, or other pleasant diversions, will not solve the problems, but good luck anyway. I hope you can still enjoy playing, and well done for giving it a go with your fingers not as flexible as they once were. We went to hear a brilliant pianist playing jazz the other night and really enjoyed it. I hardly thought about brexit at all while we were listening to him.

Well, we have a large keyboard that someone lent us; unfortunately we got rid of the piano when DD left home. I had lessons but then assured my mother I just could not cope with all my homework and piano lessons so gave up. One of my regrets, especially when I hear DD playing.
I did buy some simple music when we still had the piano but I didn't seem to progress much!

I do knit so fingers are still going, but they do stiffen up sometimes.

Perhaps I'm too cautious and should just 'go for it'!

Go for it, Jalima

When we had our extension done the lovely young builders carried my piano from the lounge to the music room, they said it needed moving so they would make it happen.
Love the idea that the young man was buying it for his girlfriend.

harrigran wrote
"Love the idea that the young man was buying it for his girlfriend."
Me too. I'm feeling quite emotional about parting with it, because I've had so much pleasure since childhood from piano-playing. but now various arthritic problems make it impossible. I was never an expert btw.
Nowadays not many people want to play the piano, it's all electronic keyboards. and the cost of transport is high.
I got an email back from the young man, to say he had arrived home safely, no problems.
And go for it, Jalima!
Also, Varian's comment about Brexit had entered my mind too. I believe in general the younger generation voted to stay in Europe. It's good to see them taking an interest in politics, and more credit and respect should be given to their views and energy.
God knows, the older generation on both sides aren't making much of an impact.
As a ps, a youtube recording of a historic piano performance:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZX_XCYokQo
Skip to 5 mins to start the music.

Ah pianos! They are very heavy. Frankly now I would always pay for a piano moving company. Our piano is in an alcove and the radiator had to be taken off to get it in. I gave myself sciatica trying to move the piano.