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Dignity in old age

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Yorkshiregel Wed 18-Jan-17 13:54:15

When someone sees an old pensioner in the street they should remember they have not always been old. Every one has a past and could have been a professor in a university, or an ace pilot, or a sister in a hospital, a headmistress, a computer expert, or a senior manager. a doctor, a foreman, or if not they still have lived through so many changes to UK. They could have been a war hero but people think less of them just because they are a few years older than they are.

Surely people should show respect? I bet some of these old people could tell a tale or two if you asked them.

Anyone been treated like they have half a brain lately?

fiorentina51 Wed 18-Jan-17 14:00:43

Yes, when I went to buy a new phone. The young man who served me was very sweet so I couldn't really give him a tongue lashing.

Charleygirl Wed 18-Jan-17 14:07:58

Yes, last year when I had my double glazing changed. I was asked for somebody else to sign whatever and the look I gave the young lad was enough for him to blush and decide that maybe this old git who owns the house is okay to sign all on her own. I did not take it any further but I was not happy.

This happened many years ago. I am divorced but did not tell the fellow wanting my husband's signature. Instead I told him that he was a tad late and he would have to go to X crematorium. My ex is living in Spain. That shut him up.

grannylyn65 Wed 18-Jan-17 14:13:41

Yes, asked if I would like to use the lift !!

cornergran Wed 18-Jan-17 15:35:58

When complaining to our energy supplier until I got to the resolutions team who have treated me with the utmost respect. As a 'by the way' I have four primary fears concerning older life - loss of independence, respect, dignity and choice. I do think we have to work harder than younger people to maintain all four because of societal attitudes.

Yorkshiregel Wed 18-Jan-17 16:21:34

My latest experience was getting to the top of three flights of stairs at the doctors feeling quite smug because I have arthritis in my knee, only for someone to wait at the top who smiled at me as I took the last step, and someone else asking me if I knew who I had come to see! Blimey! I thought I looked fairly fit, obviously not. No, I am not that old either....just a few grey hairs that's all.

ninathenana Wed 18-Jan-17 16:53:28

Three flights of stairs Yorkshiregel respect smile

Christinefrance Wed 18-Jan-17 17:06:59

I am one of those old pensioners in the street, I feel a bit patronised by this statement /thread.
I am an intelligent articulate retired person who still has a lot to offer the community.
We are not a different species from younger working people. hmm

janeainsworth Wed 18-Jan-17 17:37:27

I agree, Christine and I think that if you behave like an intelligent articulate person, then generally people treat you as one.
If I had mobility problems I wouldn't be the least upset if someone made sure the traffic had stopped do I could get across the road.
If someone gave me their seat in a crowded metro train I'd be grateful.
If I couldn't reach something on a supermarket shelf I'd be glad if someone got it down for me.
I find your reactions to someone smiling at you, or asking who you had come to see rather churlish OP.

Rigby46 Wed 18-Jan-17 18:14:51

What on earth is a GPs surgery doing with three flights of stairs? Or is there a lift? <misses point of thread>

Ana Wed 18-Jan-17 18:17:18

Obviously those who can make it that far are deserving of their appointment - or will need an ambulance! hmm

rosesarered Wed 18-Jan-17 18:27:32

Yorkshire you should have said ' the lack of oxygen up here has made me forget'grin

janeainsworth Wed 18-Jan-17 19:02:10

In the olden days when dentists provided general anaesthetics surgeries were often up a couple of flights of stairs.
Anyone who arrived not out of breath could be considered as fit for a GA hmm

kittylester Wed 18-Jan-17 21:29:03

jane grin

I'd like to know when one becomes of the old pensioners in the street. I'm 68 and receive a pension but cannot recall ever being treated as anything other than an intelligent, articulate person. I've asked my white haired 71 year old pensioner husband and he doesn't recall being treated as anything else either.

I think it is more to do with one's persona which I think is what Christine and jane were saying.

On the other hand, I sometimes play the little old lady if it suits me.grin

cornergran Wed 18-Jan-17 23:47:47

I'm obviously doing something wrong!

goldengirl Thu 19-Jan-17 11:35:59

kittylester I agree. I've never felt undervalued and I do think it is down to persona.

Jane10 Thu 19-Jan-17 11:58:26

I was appalled when visiting my Dads former GP partner in a nursing home at the way this very respectable elderly retired doctor was treated. A very tattooed porter persisted in calling him by a diminutive version of his first name. I know of old how much this person hated being called that. When I drew myself up and said 'do you mean Dr X?' this man you said yes and repeated the diminutive version. DrXs wife was also there. She's in the early stages of dementia and had tears in her eyes. When this porter left she said 'what can you do? They've got us now'. I was raging but didn't want to make waves. This lovely old couple might have had to face some sort of backlash after I'd left. angry but sad too.

JackyB Thu 19-Jan-17 12:05:44

I've not had this happen to me yet, or even to my mother, who is 98, but I often tell her when we're walking together to hold herself up straight - we crumblies often tend to bend over, when we really don't need to. Dignity comes from within!

kittylester Thu 19-Jan-17 13:58:21

In my Mum's Care Home she is addressed as Duchess! grin

rockgran Thu 19-Jan-17 14:28:18

My husband was withdrawing some cash at a "post office within a shop" and was given a plain envelope to put it in and told to keep it out of sight. He is a retired accountant and can still remember how to handle money but it was kindly meant so he just smiled and thanked her.

Yorkshiregel Thu 19-Jan-17 14:36:18

Exactly Christinefrance! That was the whole point. Old people should not be patronized, they still have a lot to offer. I quite agree with you.

Yorkshiregel Thu 19-Jan-17 14:46:08

kittylester 'I agree. I've never felt undervalued and I do think it is down to persona.'

Nothing wrong with my 'persona' I assure you. I am as cheerful and outgoing as most people I just do not like people patting me on the head and talking to me as though I were a child. I am fit, mostly healthy, and I enjoy life. I just do not like being patronized because I have a wonkey knee and a few grey hairs.

I don't get angry, I just tell myself that those people who patronize have old age to look forward to one day too. :-)

M0nica Fri 20-Jan-17 10:21:53

DH is in his 70s and still working as a consultant Chartered Engineer with colleagues of a similar age. I asked him how this goes down with the relatively young engineers they work with.

He pointed out that they all had to submit CV's when they bid, and won their contracts so their clients knew how old they were and they got the contracts because of the depth and extent of their experience. Not only that, some of the work is quite physically demanding. DH spent most of last week standing round outside at an exposed shipyard in the north of England supervising the loading of wind farm parts on to a barge for towage out to sea. The weather last week was less than clement.

I do not think dignity in old age comes into it for him or his employers. All they think is 'he (and colleagues) can do the best job '

Personally, also being in my 70s, I have yet to be patronised by anyone. If anyone does, they will get a dose what was once called (approvingly) my air of authority

Swanny Fri 20-Jan-17 10:45:29

Yorkshiregel I recently had a follow-up appointment with my GP after a lung scan. Some old scarring had shown up which was probably from 2 bouts of pneumonia many years ago. One of the questions she asked me was 'Do you get breathless on exertion?' Then answered her own question by saying 'Well I can see you don't, after climbing 3 flights of stairs to my room!'

Yorkshiregel Fri 27-Jan-17 15:06:01

Exactly! I was not breathless, I was slow and deliberate because I had a wonkey knee. I was not confused either and knew who I had come to see.