A glottal stop too far

That really is sloppy. I didn't hear it but would have cringed. I love regional accents too and if Angela Rayner were a "proper" cockney then I suppose the missing t would be acceptable, but as far as I know, she's not.

I agree regional accents are great but lazy speech is not. I dislike people trying to adopt a regional accent when clearly they are making fun or trying to curry favour.

I cringe when I hear George Clarke (from Channel 4's Amazing Spaces etc.) say ar'itect to describe his profession. He comes from the North East, which probably accounts for it. I do love to hear regional accents though! If I hear one for a short while I soon find myself thinking in it. My mother was a farmer's daughter from North Yorkshire, where, as a child, I used to find the shepherds impossible to understand.

I think the politicians do it to make out they are 'down on the street' with the rest of the population. Agree it is toe curling.

I do a good line in Welsh. It only sometimes goes over to Pakistani.

I cringe at this lazy ways of speaking every time I watch Eastenders. It has nothing to do with the accent, just the complete lack of the letter 'T' , as in waa-e, instead of water
and the lazy speech in general. I love listening to regional accents from all over the country, even though I do struggle with understanding some of them!

I agree. Regional accents are great but I just cannot stand the so-called "estuary English" that seems to be so prevalent today. It is just lazy!

DGS age 3 is the master of the glottal stop & he knows he's doing it & that I hate it! I had given him some bacon & was busying myself whilst he demolished it in double quick time. "Oh" I said" where's all that bacon gone?" The reply " I e' ' i' ' ". So I said " I ATE IT" cheeky reply - " I ATE IT all up and IT is in my tummy"!!
He knows I will correct him & anticipates it, but it's not easy as his mum(DDIL) & her mum are both guilty I'm afraid.

When I read this morning that Angela Rayner, shadow education secretary, said that Theresa May's grammar school proposals, if implemented, would be "de'rimen'al" - how do you hear something you read?

I'm a stickler for articulation as well. My nephew's girlfriend was here with him one day and said something like "su uh uh uh" (solicitor). When they left, I tried and tried to mimic it but for the life of me couldn't say it.

Couldn't agree more. I also can't understand why TV presenters and newsreaders are adopting what my English teacher used to call, 'a shock of two vowels' - In other words prouncing THE as THA before a vowel which causes a kind of hiccup in the sentence.

Tha audience instead of Thee audience for example.

Some of these TV presenters cannot speak properly at all. Bradley Walsh on The Chase asks every contestant 'If you was to win some money today, what would you do with it?' It drives me mad.

Yes, I admit to hating all these crimes against pronunciation too. I hate 'claps' for 'collapse','rawlway' for 'railway', and many more. I also hate the shock of two vowels.

Angela Rayner is from Stockport and a glottal 't' is part of the Manchester accent.

And my pet hate 'sick' instead of 'sixth'

KatieK - everytime Bradley says that I cringe too. I love him to bits but argh! Personally I dislike 'sickth' instead of 'sixth'. I feel eyes boring into me as I bite my tongue not to say anything when I hear it on television. My family are waiting for me to react!

Oh dear I couldn't disagree more. I love to hear regional accents. Some more than others ( I hate mine) but really couldn't care less about how things are pronounced . Why do we all need to sound as though we are reading the news ?

Yes George Clark is from the NE shysal and I think his accent is lovely.

Yes, 'sickth' and also 'fith' are my pet hates...

And 'secketry'.

There are those who seem to have made the 'W' redundant. "Droring" and "loranorder" are ones that particularly drive me wild. "Was" and "were" became a thorny issue between my former boss and myself. He considered himself to be an expert grammarian (he considered himself to be an expert in everything) and we were constantly at odds as I used to proof read his reports and letters. I would correct a 'was' for a 'were' and he would send back having put the original word back in.

I am from Stockport but I hope I know how to speak, well actually I do know how to speak and glottal stops don't come into it.

I agree. I also find Jess Phillips' estuary English makes her sound yobbish (which isn't helped by the things she says).
Estuary English isn't an accent, it is just bad elocution but saying that would lead to accusations of snobbery.
Angela Rayner has said that she did not have a good education herself and had to overcome it and so I do think that she will make a good education secretary but it would be better if she improved her speech. I am disappointed tough that she has not said anything about the governments proposals to make faith schools even more divisive.
I think the same thing about Jo Cox. She is great as a nanny but I would still choose one who spoke well if I were in that position.

Sorry, but I disagree with you. I've just been listening to Angela Rayner on YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMsT4r6Wic

I've heard people in Stockport speak like that.

Here are some features of a Manchester accent:

englishesna1d.wikispaces.com/Mancunian

A glottal 't' is typical.

I love accents andI have a broad Brummie accent but I too hope I know how to speak. It just strikes me as sloppy.

I wouldn't choose Jo Cox as a nanny :-(

I like proper speech too. I cringe at the constant mumffp being used on house type television programmes such as Homes under the Hammer or Benefit Tenants instead of month. The wrong grammar of Bradley Walsh and others is irritating. I hate to hear people talk of drawring instead of drawing and another one being aks in place of ask. I wonder why the BBC VOICE is longer heard. People took pride in speaking clearly and properly but now it is not even required for television personalities. I would not object to a regional accent if the words used were properly and not slovenly delivered